Well, the day started out $hitty

[Mittzy]

I'm sure I'll find more when I get er' cracked open. Not really mad at it anymore. Just a mechanical thing that broke. I don't like the idea of mixing new and 75,000 mile gears so I'm still thinking I'll buy an engine out of a wreck, and use the entire tranny. My money is still on a failed snap ring. That will piss me off if all this heartache is caused by the failure of a 10 cent part. If that turns out to be the problem, I'm definitely going to look into alternative snap rings. Perhaps something like this

I want to read up on what they use in super high powered drag bike transmissions.

I wonder if this clip could be used with a tig weld tack on it - It wont let go then....

 

[warp9.9]

I wonder if this clip could be used with a tig weld tack on it - It wont let go then....

Probably to hard to get the torch in under the rest of the components to tack it. they do make locking ones external internal and center

I haven't found a image of the center locking but you can see it on this link
Self-Locking Rings

Ah Here we go

Of course we will have to ponder on any disruption to assembly or dis-assembly of the shafts and components.

 

[Rocket Scientist]

Mr. Lush's theory is to back cut the gears. That would then eliminate any side thrust on the circlips. Makes sense to me. If the gears are trying to stay engaged due to their shape, the circlips are just along to keep the unselected gears from wandering around.

 

[Joesmoe]

There's no free lunch. What is the downside of undercut gears ? Is it simply the cost ? In production, I would think that is miniscule -- having seen factories where stuff is made such as turbine blades for jet engines, or barrels, slides, and frames for Beretta firearms.

 

[Rocket Scientist]

Hey Fred do you have a link to this? I'd like to read more before putting my foot in my mouth oh I mean my opinion

I was thinking of talking to spiralox and see what their engineers say.
Spirolox® Retaining Rings

I also like the self locking one but I am not sure if you can get into some of them to set the locks. It sucks not have parts laying around to look at.
Self-Locking Rings

Oh and that's a nice Classic especially for 4k doesn't match color wise but you change the tins and bags out and you red beast is back..
Of course I understand wanting to fix yours yourself and can only say there can be a differences in the price of what a rocket is worth to the public and to ones self. I know yours and mine are older and we have seen a hand full of new ones lately develop some problems. What I cannot figure out is why are the Touring models not having the same issues.

My guess is that most tourings are running the stock, restricted tune. That may buy them some time.

 

[Rocket3Pilot]

I think a regular spiral ring would do the trick even without the locking feature. Not having a gap anywhere in the circumference would preclude it from ever getting out to start with, but I'd still get the groove cut deeper. JMTC.

I'd be interested to know what the engineers say so let us know if you actually track this down. It would be a huge thing psychologically if we collectively found a permanent fix. It is severely undermining my confidence in keeping this bike long term and I have a 2013 with 10,500 miles on it. That's really a shame to not trust a brand new machine to get you where your going.

Why Triumph doesn't address this is just really poor judgment on their part.

 

[Rocket Scientist]

Hey Fred do you have a link to this? I'd like to read more before putting my foot in my mouth oh I mean my opinion

I was thinking of talking to spiralox and see what their engineers say.
Spirolox® Retaining Rings

I also like the self locking one but I am not sure if you can get into some of them to set the locks. It sucks not have parts laying around to look at.
Self-Locking Rings

Oh and that's a nice Classic especially for 4k doesn't match color wise but you change the tins and bags out and you red beast is back..
Of course I understand wanting to fix yours yourself and can only say there can be a differences in the price of what a rocket is worth to the public and to ones self. I know yours and mine are older and we have seen a hand full of new ones lately develop some problems. What I cannot figure out is why are the Touring models not having the same issues.

The Classic is nice, but without knowing the skill level of the person who repaired that trans I'm leary of it.

What did you think of the picture of my stator ? For all I know they all look like that once they have some miles on them ?

 

[Ishrub]

The Classic is nice, but without knowing the skill level of the person who repaired that trans I'm leary of it.

What did you think of the picture of my stator ? For all I know they all look like that once they have some miles on them ?

Ask the guru @DEcosse .

 

[Joesmoe]

@DEcosse posted a treatise a while back about how the design of the Triumph system has the stator working at maximum output continuously, and by changing out the rectifier/regulator to a series model, the stator only works as needed. If you make the decision to go forward, and you have the engine open anyway, you could replace the stator, and if doing so, I would recommend going with the series R/R (plug and play, though the location may need adjustment).

 

[warp9.9]

My guess is that most tourings are running the stock, restricted tune. That may buy them some time.

I kind of thought that also but then pictured ski flogging his thru the mountains and quickly thought there has to be a lot of touring guys with the screws to do that also. Not to mention I think the modified power tripp tune goes in even before a horn now