When To Use Your Rear Brakes- Well, It Depends Doesn't It?

[2023R3GT]

exactly

 

[1olbull]

the bike and context is important.

as an example I would love see you lift the rear while at lean on a rocket 3.
also never had issues feathering the front brakes on any bike while at lean, in fact all the way to the corner apex. this is how you generate front tire grip in corners and reduce cornering radius, turning tighter.
When the front forks compress you reduce the wheelbase length and significantly increase downward pressure on the front tire, generating lots of grip. That why the lack of rear brake does not bother me to much, should just be enough to hold bike when stationary, at least for me.

the wings on motogp bikes are there to improve downward pressure on the front to generate shoulder sliding corning magic!
best wishes all.

Apologies. My aim was not to upset you.
I took "feathering" to mean applying the front brake on and off.
This would result in the front forks bouncing up and down and possibly becoming unstable.
Now that I review my comments, you may have been talking about merely feeling out the friction zone.
Edit . . . Just watched Barbie's posted video, now I habla what you wrote before.

 

[Kevin frazier]

@1olbull you are a true gentleman, after 70 years on a motor, and i happen to know a Triumph GOAT, arguably the very best most experienced hooner on this forum, maybe even still, but i know from respected peers comments riding with you that you are the best rider theyve ever seen so there observation of you and there comment is all i need to know it must be a fact as i haven’t been blessed yet to ride with you, a true conqueror of these things we love. Thanks for sharing from a life of experiences like you do, and i count what you offer as advice, priceless and treat it as such, i learned so much from you from a distance over the last 7 years or so, thanks man.

 

[1olbull]

Shooting down methods that have been in practice (taught practice) for a long time. Learning is living

Barbie, @2023R3GT,
What an excellent video!
Terrific explanation!
Gratitude for sharing. Tis been many years since I initially gained much of my knowledge and like all sports the younger studs have improved the schtick.

 

[1olbull]

@1olbull you are a true gentleman, after 70 years on a motor, and i happen to know a Triumph GOAT, arguably the very best most experienced hooner on this forum, maybe even still, but i know from respected peers comments riding with you that you are the best rider theyve ever seen so there observation of you and there comment is all i need to know it must be a fact as i haven’t been blessed yet to ride with you, a true conqueror of these things we love. Things for sharing from a life of experiences like you do, and i count what you offer as advice, priceless and treat it as such, i learned so much from you from a distance over the last 7 years or so, thanks man.

Barbie,
You just made my month!
What a wonderful compliment you have given me!!! One of the best EVER for me.
I am indeed now in the "trail braking" phase of my riding skills, but I still have my memories!
Tis easy to complain about age related reduction of physical skills, BUT I AM SO fortunate and grateful to still be riding.
Can't wait to see you in Harrison - be ready for BIG HUG when I see ya!

 

[1olbull]

@Kevin frazier
PS: I remember a short ride back to the cabins from dinner in Leakey one time at the last Texas soiree.
We'll get plenty miles in together on the 24th & 25th of June - I hope!

 

[1olbull]

I sometimes use a touch of rear to tip in a little more in a turn, rarely use the front in tight work.

Amen, Amigo.
Hooning the tight twisties (25mph and less) tossing around the weight of the Roadster introduces added issues.
These days I find the short time/distance involved, plus the added factors to deal with tend to overload my old brain, so I seldom trail brake.

 

[Tal]

1olbull....maybe i should have explained 'Feathering' more clearly. I would never 'pull and let go'...'pull and let go' the front brake whilst turning thru a corner but i do hover over the brake so i can apply a small amount of speed kill if needed with gentle, brief pressure.
Sometimes i dont need it cos im hopefully in the correct gear and losing a bit of power as well brings me in again.
Correct placement of the front brake lever so my fingers can still reach it whilst im twistng power on is a big plus!
I have run wide twice in my riding time...both times my mind was elsewhere...tired after a long day and not paying attention.
If my foot could have reached my butt i would have kicked my own arse for being inattentive!

 

[Tripps]

@1olbull you are a true gentleman, after 70 years on a motor, and i happen to know a Triumph GOAT, arguably the very best most experienced hooner on this forum, maybe even still, but i know from respected peers comments riding with you that you are the best rider theyve ever seen so there observation of you and there comment is all i need to know it must be a fact as i haven’t been blessed yet to ride with you, a true conqueror of these things we love. Thanks for sharing from a life of experiences like you do, and i count what you offer as advice, priceless and treat it as such, i learned so much from you from a distance over the last 7 years or so, thanks man.

In English, please.

 

[Kevin frazier]

In English, please.

Ruthless