Well, the day started out $hitty

[Speedy]

Can you post a picture of the gears' surfaces that abut the retainers? What is the maximum diameter retainer or shim that can be used for each shaft? What would you consider the minimum retainer OD's?

 

[Rocket Scientist]

Can you post a picture of the gears' surfaces that abut the retainers? What is the maximum diameter retainer or shim that can be used for each shaft? What would you consider the minimum retainer OD's?

I have Sat and Sun off so I'll get you the aforementioned pics.

 

[warp9.9]

Ah so Blaine is out of Hibernation Good to see you back posting especially in tech areas like this.

 

[warp9.9]

I have Sat and Sun off so I'll get you the aforementioned pics.

Hey Fred did your 2nd/3rd gear output have splined bushing with the face or separate splined shims like original? Make sure you include them in your pictures as their faces hit the snap ring and spin with the shaft.

 

[Rocket Scientist]

Hey Fred did your 2nd/3rd gear output have splined bushing with the face or separate splined shims like original? Make sure you include them in your pictures as their faces hit the snap ring and spin with the shaft.

Will do.

 

[warp9.9]

Will do.

Ya I keep thinking mainly about that section as its where the snap ring pops on most, and maybe more lately would be a better way to describe it. If shimming is to be done Ill have to refresh my mind but don't believe there is any other removable shims now that the bushing changed to a flange bushing. Not that shims cant be introduced somewhere in there. In case there is to much slop.

Now back to my attic (I hate insulation)

 

[mr hunt]

No room for shims when I rebuilt mine with the flanged bushes either side of the gear cluster

 

[warp9.9]

No room for shims when I rebuilt mine with the flanged bushes either side of the gear cluster

do you remember how much slop/clearance was in her once you got her back together?

 

[warp9.9]

@Rocket Scientist have you removed the helical gear off the shaft yet? I am curious if you think the nut was at 145 NM torque. Just pondering a bit as I remember it caused problems on Mark Copess's bike. Trying to figure out how the snap ring got hit by the gear. especially when there is a snap ring on the fourth gear side also that was not drove out of its groove. Something I think would have happened or the shaft moved forward like Marcs's did.

 

[Rocket Scientist]

@Rocket Scientist have you removed the helical gear off the shaft yet? I am curious if you think the nut was at 145 NM torque. Just pondering a bit as I remember it caused problems on Mark Copess's bike. Trying to figure out how the snap ring got hit by the gear. especially when there is a snap ring on the fourth gear side also that was not drove out of its groove. Something I think would have happened or the shaft moved forward like Marcs's did.

The side engagement dogs for fourth gear reach over the forth gear clip. So when it moves in to lock in fourth gear, it momentarily pushes fourth gear into third gear and third gears clip until the dogs engage the windows in fourth gear. I was attempting to shift from fifth to fourth when my clip finally let go.