Spoke with an Avon Tire Engineer Today

Our OEM rear wheel is 16x7.5.
Should not we consider 17x 7.5 for the 240/45ZR17 Pilot Power 3?

I also have learned that this 17" PilotPower 3 lowers the rear axle nearly a half inch - not good!
 
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Oh, well, a I stand corrected, not sure I mentally pulled 8.5 from, might hav been my nether region.

17x8.75 fits, if I get a chance I'll posted some pics later today.

It's right in the size middle of the Excedra Max and the other 16" options, maybe I'm doing the math wrong?
 
@1olbull and @barbagris As a 17 you can now fit the Pilot Power 3, a tire literally unmatched as a street tire if you consider both wet and dry traction.
And - the 240/45R17 is only fractionally different circumference (ON PAPER) to a 240/50R16 so no ABS issues.



But it's a lot of spondoolicks. Way less than C/F though.
Have to admit I am very uncertain. May write and ask if slimmer rims are possible. eg. a 6" or 6.5"
I don't need the "launch" grip. But slimmer rims (therefore slimmer tyres) should corner better in Sports-Tourer mode in hairpins etc. That matters far more to me.
 
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@1olbull and @barbagris I got an answer from Deget on converting a 16x8.5 rocket wheel to a 17x8.75 wheel.

After close examination I figured out their method, its quite ingenious. The cut off the lip of the stock rim, then take a new hoop and slide it around the outside. I can only assume they weld them together along the inside of the rim, because there is no weld visible on the wheels they've done and it would make balancing easy, just balance, grind, balance grind etc until its weighted evenly. It's not likely to ever fail, or leak, and doesn't require precision machining that would be involved in cutting off the whole hoop and mating another one.

Price came out to - 780 euros for the work, using a forged aluminum hoop to increase the diameter for strength.
Shipping to me was quoted around 140 euros if a tire is installed, so a bit less without.
In the US we can pass on the TUV certification, meaning you save 60 euros.

Roughly translates to $980 shipped for a 17x8.75. As a 17 you can now fit the Pilot Power 3, a tire literally unmatched as a street tire if you consider both wet and dry traction. If you go 18x8.75, you get the Dunlop Q3 as an option, wears much faster than PP3, has less rain grip, but has significantly increased dry grip.

An option would be to buy a rim on ebay.de, have it shippped to them, and then do the work and forward to you. It would save you the downtime while your rim was being worked.

IN EITHER CASE, the PP3 and Q3, are both so vastly superior to the 16x8.5 options, it's irrelevant which you pick unless your planning on racing your R3 on the track, then go with the Q3 lol.
AND what 17 inch tires are you going to use ?
 
I would use the PP3 basically the best actual street tire, I don't count a Q3 as an actual street tire, it's more a DOT legal track tire.

I'm not going the deget route though, just put up info for those who might want to.

@barbagris just be conscious of your wheel base and use of the rear, mine is used edge to edge now that it's stopped raining, not sure if a 200 or 210 would Limit lean angles?
 
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Interesting though. I'd say in COLD weather the Metz out corners a Cobra. I've ridden on ice on 880's with no issue (other than flapping sphincter). The German lads say that up North the Metz is a better bet - whereas South where it is much warmer the Avon is favoured. Only used a front Cobra and it lasted less than the ME880. Heard from an Austrian Metz dealer that the 880 is really designed as an H rated tyre - but it withstood the V test. They warm up fast but don't shed heat. This (so far) seems to be THE BIG PLUS with the Emax. It warms up fairly fast - but sheds heat fast too.
Question about tire heat and pressure - I installed FOBO bluetooth on my tires (I am notoriously lazy about checking pressures). The cold pressure is fine within 1/2 lb of target (I have the Metz on the rear and Cobra up front) Just got back in from an hour cruise - no highways just some 55mph back roads...the pressures are at 45 front @88 degrees F, rear 48.8 at 102 degrees F...it's only 82 degrees here. I have them both set at 42 lbs cold. Just wondering if iI should be concerned or not - it get pretty warm here in SC and the last thing I want to do is blow a tire going at Rocket speeds....?
 
42 cold is supposed to be OK. Tires do heat up quite a lot and we just don't realize it because most don't have temp sensors. I ride mostly single and have a 880 pound bike tare weight and I am 220 with my gear on. I use 38 psi in my Cobras and I'm very happy with the results.
 
42 cold is supposed to be OK. Tires do heat up quite a lot and we just don't realize it because most don't have temp sensors. I ride mostly single and have a 880 pound bike tare weight and I am 220 with my gear on. I use 38 psi in my Cobras and I'm very happy with the results.
I'm 6'8" - 355 and the rocket is 845 dry....so 1200 lbs minimum - - - !Guess it could be a case of Too Much Information.....
 
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