Talk to me about gear

It bears repeating, "Only rigid fullfaces for me as modulars still do not afford the either the same or better integrity in a bad get-off. I'd much rather be a little less comfortable than to be disfigured or dead."
 
It bears repeating, "Only rigid fullfaces for me as modulars still do not afford the either the same or better integrity in a bad get-off. I'd much rather be a little less comfortable than to be disfigured or dead."

So...I assume you also wear full racing leathers @ ALL times because other attire will not offer the same level of protection?

And now, there is a new neck support, designed by a Dr./biker....DON'T RIDE WITHOUT THAT!

And you can add some airbags too...

BTW...nothing can protect you from some types of crashes...life is a compromise.
 
So...I assume you also wear full racing leathers @ ALL times because other attire will not offer the same level of protection?

And now, there is a new neck support, designed by a Dr./biker....DON'T RIDE WITHOUT THAT!

And you can add some airbags too...

BTW...nothing can protect you from some types of crashes...life is a compromise.


Safety is a very individual thing I think. Honestly, the best thing to wear on a bike to be safe would be a volvo. So each person needs to determine what is the level of gear they want to wear without ruining the experience of riding, whatever that experience is for each person.

No matter what gear you put on, you're not making a practical decision from a safety stand point by getting on your absurdly large motorcycle. So figure out what that level is for you and stick to it. A half helmet worn 100% of the time trumps a full face worn 25% of the time.
 
Safety is a very individual thing I think. Honestly, the best thing to wear on a bike to be safe would be a volvo. So each person needs to determine what is the level of gear they want to wear without ruining the experience of riding, whatever that experience is for each person.

No matter what gear you put on, you're not making a practical decision from a safety stand point by getting on your absurdly large motorcycle. So figure out what that level is for you and stick to it. A half helmet worn 100% of the time trumps a full face worn 25% of the time.


EXACTLY! Safe defensive riding techniques & keen awareness are really the most important thing regarding safety...that you should not compromise on.
 
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Never looked at it from that angle, but a good point indeed, and those are the supposed tough guys!:thumbsup:

do you remember when hockey goalies did not wear any face protection.... I am old enough to remember .. that frozen puck coming at you at around 60mph from around 20 feet away i shudder to think of impact from frozen rubber to soft flesh I think gump worsley in the goals faced that situation many times
 
Reading all these posts there is some great choices. I Bought the HJC full face helmet too and love it. It's the only one i found that fit my big head. I got a great deal on a Raptor Jacket from Triumph. it fits like a glove and breaths pretty well when you remove the liner. I found Gerbing makes XXXL gloves for those with big hands. http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=gerbing gloves pictures&qpvt=gerbing gloves pictures&FORM=IGRE

Chippawa makes a great rally leather boot that looks sharp and holds up well,mine are ten plus years old.
that boot is the prettiest biker boot ever conceived!! too bad it is not available in any boot store
I hear some folks order two sets and return the one that does not fit.
 
quote="Ogremeister, post: 238170, member: 51"]So...I assume you also wear full racing leathers @ ALL times because other attire will not offer the same level of protection?

And now, there is a new neck support, designed by a Dr./biker....DON'T RIDE WITHOUT THAT!

And you can add some airbags too...

BTW...nothing can protect you from some types of crashes...life is a compromise.[/quote]
Take what Phil says with a grain of salt Andy. I hear most people that meet him in person want to punch him in the head :)

But then if he aint clueless he might really use protective helmets :D
 
So...I assume you also wear full racing leathers @ ALL times because other attire will not offer the same level of protection?

And now, there is a new neck support, designed by a Dr./biker....DON'T RIDE WITHOUT THAT!

And you can add some airbags too...

BTW...nothing can protect you from some types of crashes...life is a compromise.


Remember what happens to folks when they assume, Ogre?

I very clearly asserted my own choice and the reasoning behind it, but I'll make my decision even more crystal clear for the benefit of yourself or anyone else that might be curious with respect to my motives.

It's a virtual given that we all understand the risky nature of our two-wheeled avocation. Further, most riders would agree that their head is the most important part of the body to protect from the wide array of hazards that threaten us as riders. After all, you can break or injure pretty much any other part of the body and, generally speaking, maintain the probability of having a reasonably high degree of quality of life post-recovery. Injure your head/brain sufficiently and that bet goes out the window.

After 42 years of riding I had a deer run out in front of me and it was impossible to avoid the ensuing, really bad get-off. Had I been wearing any other sort of helmet other than the integral fullface I thankfully wore that day or, possibly a modular fullface, I would have surely sustained massive head and facial trauma injuries or, more likely, I would have been killed instantly. Since I had done my homework years earlier, having decided that there was a possibility of a modular's locking mechanism or hinges not holding together upon impact, in retrospect, I am grateful to have made the decision about headgear that I did, so grateful in fact that I believe that I owe my life to that decision.

Subsequent to that accident, I became a fulltime, all-the-time, no exceptions adherent to ATGATT, not simply a selective or occasional user of full protective gear. Now, I know that you were being somewhat tongue-in-cheek with regard to your wisecracks about wearing racing leathers and other more advanced or state-of-the-art protective gear, nonetheless, I found your remarks to be both gratuitous and callous.

This thread is about people's choices about protective gear. If we are to take your inconsiderate or unthoughtful commentary to its extreme (something you obviously did not intend), than none of us should ever throw our legs over a motorcycle because its simply too dangerous. Hence, what you did state was really unnecessary, no more, no less.

Surely pretty much all the choices we make in life involve some degree of compromise. Perhaps you could have compromised your criticality a bit more before making such a sardonic post, by simply reasserting the obvious, that the level or degree of caution one takes in this shared passion of ours called motorcycling, is totally up to the individual, other than for when some aspect of our safety is mandated by law.

Oh and Warp 9.9, our resident know-it-all, is right about one thing, but it isn't that folks that meet me would love to provide the head trauma for me.:roll: It's the salt advice that he's spot on about.
 
U know why i posted what i posted...& it worked like a charm...great response Mr. Philip!

but serously, modern modulars are very close to full face in safety...in every circumstance, the details are different.

statistically, if you are concerned with your face, as well as your head, you need a chin bar of some sort. If you can find a significant statistical difference of facial/jaw injuries between modular & full face, please provide a link. Otherwise we are just opining.

Early & maybe very cheap modulars had plastic locking mech. now metal is the norm.

Full face helmets have self destructed with impacts, as well as modulars....they are designed to protect not survive intact.
 
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