First ride with triple K&Ns

[1K9]

Rick, to me, one of the great benefits of the RamAir/K&N swap is getting the orig. intake plumbing out of the d@mn way.
No the 12 minute tune will not do it - it needs an ECU tune for richer tables with the aftermarket intake filters. After a new tune you also need to run a TPS/ISCV test & reset parameters.

Wow, The mod changes the inhalation volume considerably. Hummm But still you opine that the stock intake tubing must go. What is ISCV.

Why would A RamAir set up attract moisture? They are so easy to clean if they were to be trashed somehow.

 

[EasTexRIII]

Wow, The mod changes the inhalation volume considerably. Hummm But still you opine that the stock intake tubing must go. What is ISCV.

Why would A RamAir set up attract moisture? They are so easy to clean if they were to be trashed somehow.

The ISCV is the stepper motor setting, it controls the engine idle - Idle Stepper Control Voltage - it needs to be calibrated along with the TPS. This is all done with the TuneEcu program after you download a new tune onto your ECU, or if you are experiencing idle issues.

Moisture is not an issue. My bearclaw covers the RamAir completely

 

[1K9]

Hi, sorry to hijack the thread but it seems you might be able to help. Just fitted the ramair to my bike (2007 standard with TORS and cat delete), i've used tuneecu and tried several maps before the ramair but does anyone have a tune that's suitable, presume the same tune will work for the K&N's as the ramair.

The ISCV is the stepper motor setting, it controls the engine idle - Idle Stepper Control Voltage - it needs to be calibrated along with the TPS. This is all done with the TuneEcu program after you download a new tune onto your ECU, or if you are experiencing idle issues.

Moisture is not an issue. My bearclaw covers the RamAir completely

Got that. Basic diagnostics and set up in TECU. The experts have generously posted maps that should fit.

What is your range per tank these days? Have you Dynoed your bike to see what it puts onto the rear tire?

 

[Blackthou]

Can the RamAir mod be installed leaving all the stock intake ducts in place? Some claim that it attracts moisture.
I guess the guy rides in the rain a lot? It would be nice to have the option to return the bike to stock easily anyway.

BTW, will a 12 minute tune be enough for the bike to reset back and forth? I'm trying to see the stock intake causing airflow resistance in regular operating conditions. What sold it to me was a video with the sound of the intake from the driver seat. For the price of a meal, can't beat it.

I installed the RamAir a couple of months ago and the only thing I removed was the plenum on top of the intakes, reason being if I want to revert back I won't have all the hassle evryone moans about and If I take the stock filter out of its housing I still benefit from the additional storage space.

 

[EasTexRIII]

Got that. Basic diagnostics and set up in TECU. The experts have generously posted maps that should fit.

What is your range per tank these days? Have you Dynoed your bike to see what it puts onto the rear tire?

range is 150-170 depending on aggressiveness. It got 210-230 with the old stock tune for Tors & cat delete only (20226 i think)
I don't give a rip about mileage though.
I've only @ss dyno'd it and am completely satisfied when my @ss starts chewing holes in the saddle

 

[EasTexRIII]

I installed the RamAir a couple of months ago and the only thing I removed was the plenum on top of the intakes, reason being if I want to revert back I won't have all the hassle evryone moans about and If I take the stock filter out of its housing I still benefit from the additional storage space.

I guess I get that, but one great benefit to me is getting all of that plumbing the heck out of the way

 

[Nat67]

I guess I get that, but one great benefit to me is getting all of that plumbing the heck out of the way

Got that. Basic diagnostics and set up in TECU. The experts have generously posted maps that should fit.

What is your range per tank these days? Have you Dynoed your bike to see what it puts onto the rear tire?

Moisture is not really a problem with the Ramair, as they are treated with magic muck that you reapply after cleaning the filter at around 10000 miles or sooner if needed !
My bike has pcv and tors , the dyno readings are 149rwh and around 150 ft lbs torque . Greatly improved over stock ! I also have the secondaries removed and redine of 7000rpm .

 

[BigNorm]

Wow, The mod changes the inhalation volume considerably. Hummm But still you opine that the stock intake tubing must go. What is ISCV.

Why would A RamAir set up attract moisture? They are so easy to clean if they were to be trashed somehow.

These are the two air inlets from the stock air box.

 

[Rick Morris]

Can the RamAir mod be installed leaving all the stock intake ducts in place? Some claim that it attracts moisture.
I guess the guy rides in the rain a lot? It would be nice to have the option to return the bike to stock easily anyway.

BTW, will a 12 minute tune be enough for the bike to reset back and forth? I'm trying to see the stock intake causing airflow resistance in regular operating conditions. What sold it to me was a video with the sound of the intake from the driver seat. For the price of a meal, can't beat it.

Not at the air cleaners. So I tossed all the factory air ducts and air box crap into a box and stored it away. It does not take long to remove the air intake tubes and stuff. You do need to lift the tank. But overall it is an easy job. The factory air box now makes for a good storage box for gloves, rags, whatever fits. I often end up riding in the rain and I have yet to have an issue sucking in water. The K&Ns are reusable. You clean them with the K&N cleaner and re oil them with the K & N Oil. I have been using K & N on everything for as long as I can remember. There is an obvious increase in the intake sound, its perfectly normal. The 12 minute tune is not a enough for an accurate re tune. I do not have any tunes saved as the laptop I had the tunes on met an early accidental death.

 

[1olbull]

Can we see the left side of your bike. Would like to see what you did to the bear claw if anything. I have 97 Classic and run stock pipes, no CAT, stock intake through a K&N.

If ya run with the 2780 K&Ns or the RamAir there is NO NEED to trim the bearclaw!