Engine Vibration continues

[albertaduke]

Correct me if I am wrong, but the Roadsters did not come out until the end of 2009 - beginning of 2010. so you may have a Rocket III or a Rocket III Classic. Both excellent models and of the era of no vibrations. LOL

smantsy pantsy! roadster, classic, standard blah blah blah details all the same anyway ... frame and engine but mine is none of the mentioned anymore it is now a JD special and after changing both output shaft bearings in my garage ,(with the help of many experienced captains)I can report that it runs very smoothly did before and after the swap and I found out early about the bearings because the smoothness had somehow dissipated and a coffee grinder vibration and noise became apparent so your vibration is NOT a reasonable assumption it should be smooth period.

 

[Edaman1]

ever though of having a test done on your oil by a good lab to get the definite answer?

Yes I have albertaduke. I would have thought that Triumph may have thought of that and covered the costs. I did take a sample before i gave it to Motorad to send the Rocket to Triumph NZ. They have the resources and funds, you would think that they would like to find out what the problem is and I am sure that the Factory back in the UK would cover costs under the 2 year factory warrantee that a new triumph motorcycle is covered under.

 

[Edaman1]

smantsy pantsy! roadster, classic, standard blah blah blah details all the same anyway ... frame and engine but mine is none of the mentioned anymore it is now a JD special and after changing both output shaft bearings in my garage ,(with the help of many experienced captains)I can report that it runs very smoothly did before and after the swap and I found out early about the bearings because the smoothness had somehow dissipated and a coffee grinder vibration and noise became apparent so your vibration is NOT a reasonable assumption it should be smooth period.

Yes!!! Thank you.

 

[albertaduke]

Yes I have albertaduke. I would have thought that Triumph may have thought of that and covered the costs. I did take a sample before i gave it to Motorad to send the Rocket to Triumph NZ. They have the resources and funds, you would think that they would like to find out what the problem is and I am sure that the Factory back in the UK would cover costs under the 2 year factory warrantee that a new triumph motorcycle is covered under.

and what was in the oil?? beside oil

 

[albertaduke]

Yes I have albertaduke. I would have thought that Triumph may have thought of that and covered the costs. I did take a sample before i gave it to Motorad to send the Rocket to Triumph NZ. They have the resources and funds, you would think that they would like to find out what the problem is and I am sure that the Factory back in the UK would cover costs under the 2 year factory warrantee that a new triumph motorcycle is covered under.

do not forget that the prime directive unlike startrek is the bottom line of investors so a customer is just a small pile of cash to be added to the final tally I wrote a letter to triumph america headquarters about my bearing situation even added pictures ...they did not even bother to reply so lower your expectation as customer and do not expect much

 

[Edaman1]

do not forget that the prime directive unlike startrek is the bottom line of investors so a customer is just a small pile of cash to be added to the final tally I wrote a letter to triumph america headquarters about my bearing situation even added pictures ...they did not even bother to reply so lower your expectation as customer and do not expect much

Thank you for telling me something that I may have already realised. I don't expect anything other than maybe it being fixed or someone that reads this, knows how to remedy the issue, as others do I'm sure. After all isn't that what this forum is all about.
Maybe even Triumph may learn from some of the experiences and comments put forward by people like yourself albertaduke.

 

[Mark Dunn]

Hi Edaman1,

With filthy oil accompanied by vibration I think it would be worth doing a leakdown check on each cylinder.

Regards,
Mark Dunn

 

[Jag]

May be the clutch friction plates are going bad that could change the color of the oil? Just my two cents from a back yard mechanic..

 

[Edaman1]

May be the clutch friction plates are going bad that could change the color of the oil? Just my two cents from a back yard mechanic..

I am one too.
The latest is, Triumph NZ are putting it on a Dyno with another Rocket to compare results.
Watch this space.

 

[IMFASTTOO]

I would say YES to that, but I am hoping that I am wrong. There is the issue of the condition of the oil too. I have never seen the oil so filthy or get so filthy so fast. To me, it looks like something is breaking down. There is a dark grey/black film underneath the filthy oil that coats everything it comes into contact with. In my experience with drag racing engines, this is the mains bearings breaking down or some other bearings breaking down. Sometimes this can be down to the type of oil that is being used. My first 2 Rockets only had Mobil 1 in them and the oil was clean all of the time with no vibration at all. I believe Triumph now use Castrol. When I took my 2013 Roadster to Experience Motorcycles in North Shore Auckland in February this year, they checked the oil and they found that the viscosity of the oil was crap and it had lost its viscosity to the point where I could see and feel it in the oil itself. The mechanic and workshop foreman did not like what they saw in that oil. They contacted Motorad to ask them what oil they were using in my Rocket.

HOW many miles on the filthy oil your testing ??