Carpenter 210+ VS 240+ on the street

[norseman]

Do I need a PCV if Carpenter has remapped/tuned the bike?

When I brought my bike in, they told me they drop a custom map with all your essential ECU tweaks onto the bike's computer and then use a PC to fine tune the fueling. If you are getting an "already carpenterized" bike, I would expect it to have the PC already installed and fully tuned. I could, of course, be mistaken... in which case a more knowledgeable captain should chime in any moment and correct me.

 

[Torque addict]

I am not not in love with horse power like I am torque. As such having to rev the motor to get "that feeling" was not the way for me. I am glad I went with the addition of a super charger to get the OMG effect. It rides like a stock bike until the throttle is twisted a little.

My feelings exactly. Turbocharger did the trick for me... 225ft/lbs at only 3400rpm... oh ya!

 

[Tripps]

I had a PCV, they normally supply it, so Bob deducted it off the price.

 

[STRIPES]

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If Ken has his ignition problem sorted out, you might get to play try and keep up.

I won't say how much she is cranking, but the dyno showed 193hp at 60 percent throttle.

 

[Trirocket3]

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I won't say how much she is cranking, but the dyno showed 193hp at 60 percent throttle.

Sounds like Nevs work

 

[slick rick]

Bob tuned mine with the 1770s on, he said he hadn't seen them before, but liked them. I asked him about running higher octane, he said you'd lose a little power. I never rode a 210, so I can't help you. I love acceleration, I've hit the 9000 rpm rev limit, well, more than once.

On the limiter ?? Black lines follow me now, where ever I go. Hard habit to break

 

[Trirocket3]

My feelings exactly. Turbocharger did the trick for me... 225ft/lbs at only 3400rpm... oh ya!

Yes forced makes for a torque monster

Mine was 200 ftlb @ 2k & 300 ftlb @ 6k TOO MUCH

Have moved on since then

Power needs to be at higher rpms for racing, easier on drivetrain too.
Sh*t I'm beginning to sound like Art

 

[Hanseman]

I know there are dozens of Carpenter themed threads I could have put this on, but I haven't been able to find this exact discussion, and I'd really like some input before I drop my bike off this Sat.

Can any of you more experienced gents provide a bit of comparison between the 210+ and 240+ kits on the road? I'm not planning to spend my life on the drag strip, but I also don't want to "half ass" and end up regretting it. Do you feel a big difference in power throughout the rev range between stage 1 and stage 2?

If 210+ feels like limitless power on the street, and 240+ just raises the ceiling that I'm already failing to touch, I'm not sure it's worth the extra bills (for me, at least).

I want the ceiling to be out of my reach, I just don't want to spend another $1800 on HP I'll never actually feel in a street environment. (PS: This could be renamed the "Talk Norseman into getting the 240+ kit thread)

Hi, go for the 240 kit, got that myself, perfect for touring, showing off, etc.

 

[Tripps]

On the limiter ?? Black lines follow me now, where ever I go. Hard habit to break

My LED tach display that runs off the auto-tune module for PCV has shown as high as 9200 rpm when the rev limiter kicked in, not sure I understand your question , nor the black lines following part.

Ahh, burning rubber, came to me after I posted.

 

[warp9.9]

I believe Les hit it right on the nose about the rpm band. Another thing I have noticed is you might not ever thought you would need it but once you have the larger rpm span you use it. There is nothing like cruising down the highway when a sport bike or Vrod pulls up on you getting spunky and being able to go down to third gear and rip the tire loose at 70 mph. You should see the look on their faces when you go back up to fifth, raise your helmet and scream at them 'go ahead I'll catch you!!!!!!
Most Harley's that want to race me I let them know I will spot them a block two head start to make it fair
Now as for the sport bike in my area the words out about me and they leave the Millennium Falcon alone. Which is kind of a bummer now