Carpenter 210+ VS 240+ on the street

[norseman]

Finally I'll have someone to ride with that can keep up with me....

I dunno Tripps... The bike can keep up but the rider needs some practice. I'm looking forward to trying though.

 

[Steel]

If Ken has his ignition problem sorted out, you might get to play try and keep up.

 

[IMFASTTOO]

I picked up my bike from Carpenter on Saturday. Final numbers with the Reband exhaust and 4040-1 filters was 222 rwhp. SURPRISINGLY to everyone, the 4040-1 filters actually produced a couple more HP than the open velocity stacks. Bob posited that this was due to other environmental factors during the run, and I tend to agree, but it's still a strong endorsement for the filters.

An open velocity stack will always flow easier than a filter, but if (like me) you just can't stomach the idea of running open stacks (and you don't mind sticking your left knee out a little while riding), these KN RX-4040-1 filters do a solid job passing wind to the engine.

I'm also told that they are working on a new design for their awesome Brute exhaust system that will put a bit of a curve in to pull a bit of heat away from your leg without stifling the flow. I personally like the look of a little twist up by the headers, so I'm eagerly awaiting their availability and may end up ordering one to let a few of those extra ponies out.

As for the magic that Carpenter Racing did to my engine... well... I'll post the dyno as soon as I get a chance, but right now I am enjoying what feels like endless ENDLESS amounts of power. The Reband pipe seems to have trimmed a few ponies off the top (I got the 240+ build and only pulled 222) due to the 1.75" headers and exhaust core, but on the dyno it showed an EXCEPTIONALLY even torque curve. There is no mountainous buildup of torque, just a solid 150-170 lb/ft all through the rev range, which makes it very easy to predict and adds to the feeling of limitless, tractable power.

The bike was beautiful when I got it, and I have never for a moment felt it lacked brute strength, but I cannot describe the incredible feeling of having all the potential of that huge juggernaut of an engine clenched in my white knuckled right hand. Three cheers for Triumph making an awesome machine and three more for Carpenter Racing pushing it beyond the pale of pure madness.

I m running the 2012 roadster 240+ setup with the BRUTE HP CARPENTER pipe with 3 heat sheilds and dont have any heat problems now with the 3rd sheild on the megaphone I wouldnt give up 25hp and run any other exhaust why give up all that HP ?

 

[IMFASTTOO]

Carpenter kit raises torque above 2500-3000rpms compared to stock, turning the rocket into a sports bike eater if you use the revs available
Some prefer to power away from idle, that's not the quickest way down the road, but to each his own.

Correct if your looking for the fastest and quickest way down the road then youll love the the Carpenter modded engines that will rev to a 9000rpm rev limiter and run faster in 3rd gear than a stock bike will run in 5th

 

[norseman]

I m running the 2012 roadster 240+ setup with the BRUTE HP CARPENTER pipe with 3 heat sheilds and dont have any heat problems now with the 3rd sheild on the megaphone I wouldnt give up 25hp and run any other exhaust why give up all that HP ?

The short answer? Because I had bought the pipe for $1800 back when I was sensible enough to think the Carpenter packages were too expensive and added unnecessary power to an already massively powerful machine. The Reband exhaust looked (to my eye) better, came with a fitted heat shield, and based on the results some of the folks here got produced better HP and Torque than the Brute with a stock engine and a retune.

Spending time on this forum (and with the bike) has convinced me that too much is never enough, and after WASTING thousands of dollars at different shops trying to get what should have been a simple pipe and air upgrade running properly I decided that Bob was the only man on the east coast I trusted to do it right. If I was going all the way out to NJ to get my bike cleaned up and running right I figured I might as well get one of the packages, if I was getting one of the packages I figured I might as well go for the 240+ but after dedicating money for the trip down and back and coming up with enough cash to pay for the package, I simply didn't have the resources to get his exhaust.

I'm currently waiting for the redesigned Carpenter exhaust, which reportedly curves differently at the headers a bit and reduces direct contact with the right leg. When it becomes available I'll be picking one of those up, getting it coated and trying to figure out a heat shield. According to Bob there should be no reason to retune, since the PCV map he put on my bike is identical to what they use for their exhaust.

This summer I'll "limp along" with only 222 hp. This winter, I'm getting my seat re-upholstered (to change the green slash to blue), getting my rims recoated blue, and putting on the new Brute, possibly with blue headers fading to black at the collector and a blue (cut) bearclaw to balance it out.

 

[bcskier54]

Welcome to the Carpenter team bud now seriously forget about the fairing you will get to much death wobble and you will spend to much time at high speed. get yourself the roadster screen and th esport screen for when you not on long distance rides and throw it on when it gets cooler. the roadster screen is great until 165 then you have to worry about cross winds. plus you can fit the sport screen in a nap sack for a trip and change over quickly once your in th emotel. its just a 12 mm socket and four bolts.

Thanks for the greetings and input. Being new to R3, I have no clue what the various screens are or where to get them (Triumph dealer, or?) Also, I've seen reference to PCV in some posts. Call me "old school" but PCV was something on old cars that needed to be replaced or cleaned during a tune-up (Positive Crankcase Ventilation valve.) So, what is this?

 

[Watcher]

Power commander 5 lol pcv for car dont worrie there is enough old (farts) I mean wisdom to remember that here as well

 

[kaivalagi]

Thanks for the greetings and input. Being new to R3, I have no clue what the various screens are or where to get them (Triumph dealer, or?)

Get one from Chris here: http://www.custom-sculpt.com/new Bike page.htm

He does plain jane stuff too, mine is as follows, they're slightly wider and sit further forward than the Triumph ones and so provide for things like a sat nav etc, well worth it:

 

[bcskier54]

Power commander 5 lol pcv for car dont worrie there is enough old (farts) I mean wisdom to remember that here as well

Do I need a PCV if Carpenter has remapped/tuned the bike?

 

[Tripps]

Yes, it's part of his package.