Tire "in and out wobble" in 1st on Paddock Stand.

[Lickety Split]

Looks to me like a bad Tire. It's not that unusual to get one of those.

 

[Triple Trouble]

I have....what am I supposed to do after that?

Having identified the low spot i would try and see if the tire, at that spot wasn't seated properly.

 

[xlr8tion]

Looks to me like a bad Tire. It's not that unusual to get one of those.

Really....

I have the runout down to 60 thousandths through some black magic and copious use of F bombs....

That is like a 1/16 of an inch......Front tire I would change it....Rear tire...well I think 60 thousandths maybe inside Triumph specs.....

 

[TURBO200R4]

i am sorry that i did not reply sooner. my internet explorer has went belly up and mygoogle will not let me reply to threads, i am at home on dial up (xxxxxx) i see that they have u afraid to ride your r3
they are right u shoud check the beads that said i work on transmissions i have watched hundreds (may be thousands) of tires moving some at low speed to check for bent axles,bent rims and bad tires and some at high speed to check for vibration,noise,ujoints ect.
just maybe two out of ten tires wil run perfect. while watching yours i donot see a problem wih the bead. a good example of this is while in flagstaf the harley davis hanso was riding had a new front tire mounted when he rode up lupe (mexican) saw it wobbling and seen that the bead was not seated.
what u r seeing is totally normal. my opinion is u put it on the ground and start riding. there is not many people that checks their tires like u i think they r just trying to be on the safe side so u do not get hurt.
i may not answer up because i hate dail up. don't worry ride it

 

[xlr8tion]

i am sorry that i did not reply sooner. my internet explorer has went belly up and mygoogle will not let me reply to threads, i am at home on dial up (xxxxxx) i see that they have u afraid to ride your r3
they are right u shoud check the beads that said i work on transmissions i have watched hundreds (may be thousands) of tires moving some at low speed to check for bent axles,bent rims and bad tires and some at high speed to check for vibration,noise,ujoints ect.
just maybe two out of ten tires wil run perfect. while watching yours i donot see a problem wih the bead. a good example of this is while in flagstaf the harley davis hanso was riding had a new front tire mounted when he rode up lupe (mexican) saw it wobbling and seen that the bead was not seated.
what u r seeing is totally normal. my opinion is u put it on the ground and start riding. there is not many people that checks their tires like u i think they r just trying to be on the safe side so u do not get hurt.
i may not answer up because i hate dail up. don't worry ride it

Turbo....AMEN!

The bead is seated perfect and the measurement from the rim to edge of sidewall is 2 and 5/8 all the way around on both sides. What I have is a 1/16th inch flat spot 3 inches long on the tire. When hand rotated it shows 60 thousandths run out on that 3 inch flat spot. Perfect on the rest of the diameter of the tire. In gear at idle it is worse I think as the tire is unloaded on the stand and the swing arm is vibrating from the idle and minor Ron out...so it looks worse rotating unloaded at several hundred RPM.

So I will take your wisdom and ride the hades out of her...Thanks for the dial up post...remember back in the days of AOL and 24k dial up in 1995. These high bandwidth millenials have no idea what we suffered through daily!

Thanks again...

Cheers...G

 

[TriumPhil]

So, is that flat spot an anomaly or is it normal and attributable to the manufacturing process - such as from assembly line mold release? Or, perhaps, is it is due to being stored in a warehouse improperly (too long without rotation)?

 

[warp9.9]

A couple good burn outs will take care of that problem

 

[cootertwo]

That's a tough one to diagnose. If it were mine, I think I'd pull the wheel, and have the tire broke down and re-seated, WITH lubricant. I once paid to have a rear tire mounted on one of my Hardley Sportsters. They told me something must be wrong with the tire, as they had a ton of weights glued to both sides of the wheel. On my first test ride, while going around a corner, with cars behind me, the tire popped off the rim on one side. I just barely kept it up, but had to change my shorts. Got her back home on a trailer, and found that they had not used any lubricant on the beads. Both the bead and rim were dry as a bone. Soaped her down, re-seated, and THEN had to pull all the weights off, as now with it seated right, it was in balance with no weights. I now check my newly mounted tires very closely, looking at that little bead of rubber that runs around the tire, just a 1/16" or so, out from the rim. If it's uniform with the rim, I'm OK. If it isn't, a re-seat is required. Also as has been mentioned, these Rocket rear wheels are a real ***** when it comes to mounting a tire. Last one I had done at my dealership, wound up taking 3 guys working together on the machine, to get the thing on and seated properly.

 

[xlr8tion]

That's a tough one to diagnose. If it were mine, I think I'd pull the wheel, and have the tire broke down and re-seated, WITH lubricant. I once paid to have a rear tire mounted on one of my Hardley Sportsters. They told me something must be wrong with the tire, as they had a ton of weights glued to both sides of the wheel. On my first test ride, while going around a corner, with cars behind me, the tire popped off the rim on one side. I just barely kept it up, but had to change my shorts. Got her back home on a trailer, and found that they had not used any lubricant on the beads. Both the bead and rim were dry as a bone. Soaped her down, re-seated, and THEN had to pull all the weights off, as now with it seated right, it was in balance with no weights. I now check my newly mounted tires very closely, looking at that little bead of rubber that runs around the tire, just a 1/16" or so, out from the rim. If it's uniform with the rim, I'm OK. If it isn't, a re-seat is required. Also as has been mentioned, these Rocket rear wheels are a real ***** when it comes to mounting a tire. Last one I had done at my dealership, wound up taking 3 guys working together on the machine, to get the thing on and seated properly.

Cooter...

Thanks for the info!

FWIW I did measure the bead gap all the way around and it uniform on both sides all the way around-including the 4" area that is flat by a 1/16th so I think the bead is set proper AFAIK.


Phil...The tire was mounted two months ago and was mfg'd 1 year ago (12 week of 2015) so I am not sure the weight of the tire in it self could cause a flat spot by its own weight. You would think off the Paddock stand sitting all winter you would get a flat spot...I am so OCD that before I got the flip stand , and was not riding, I would roll the bike forward, or back, a few feet each day cause that is 800lbs(with gas and farkles, just sitting on the side stand and exerting all that force on two small areas of the front and rear tires.


Warp...I would kill myself trying that and perhaps with some extra mileage she will even out...I will be putting her on the Flip stand when not being driven.

THE QUESTION IS....One up, which of the three settings should I have the rear shocks set at? I know the manual(been looking for it) will give the softest ride for a 210 lb guy and absorb any runout resonance?

Thanks for all your help guys.....So much knowledge and experience and I would have the tire reseated if the beads were not so uniform on both sides and if anyone looks in their service manual I think I am inside Triumphs runout specs for the rear tire...I am at 60 thousandths now.

Have a fantastic Saturday!

Cheers...G

 

[TriumPhil]

Sounds like you're good to go, Greg! As for the shocks, the best thing to do with the OEM's is to replace 'em. that said, it's easier to help spend OPM than to spend it on oneself. Someone will be along promptly to advise on the best setting for your particular circumstances, but no matter how you set 'em, they are not very compliant going over expansion joints and other regular road features at speed.