Talk to me about gear

Untill you ride like this and wear gear like this every time you go out on the bike then only do you stand a chance... Learn how to get of the bike before the situation arise...

Hey don't drop off because you are upset - your input is good and productive; as are these type of discussions.
With that said, I must comment one more time only because I feel it is very important and then I shall get off my soap box.
The comment, "Learn how to get of the bike before the situation arise..." I think you are meaning after the motor has gone down and not before - I hope.
If you eject yourself or lay the motor down before exhausting ALL your braking opportunity you are increasing your impact speed and injury potential. At a given speed, a sliding motor will travel much farther and reduce less speed than a skidding motor on its tires. Once unavoidably down separation is smart as the motor slides farther than you.
Off the box . . .
 
That's what I meant I have seen my share of injuries caused by the bike to the rider because they where hanging on and riding/sliding it out on the bike...
 

Well said, Canberra.
Believe me, my intention is not to preach or pontificate (even though it likely sounds like it). Understanding the most we can about an issue also lends to more informed decisions.
I certainly do not wish to piss off anyone that disagrees. I only "soap box" to state what I think I know and subsequently learn from the input of others.
 
C'mon, Andy, drop it already!

I never said that I wanted maximum safety overall. You somehow assumed that and why you did so is beyond me. ...........

I think it was a statement that you were willing to sacrifice comfort/convenience for what u believe was the added safety of a solid full face.

hey, u said 'why'....ok i'm dropping it.

carry on.
 

I thank you for testing this bit of kit for us, and while I do not speak for the rest of the group, I feel you have done enough in this regard. Please feel that your testing of safety gear is finished thus you no longer need to get off other than at a standstill with kick stand deployed. Have a nice day…
 

As for summer jackets I chose a River Road Mesh which when I bought it thought it was a fairly expensive piece of ****, turns out it keeps me cool while stopping Stones, Birds, bugs, and Sunburn. I've removed the liner & padding. I Still ride with only jeans & T shirt on short trips under 3 hours.
Always have worn a helmet, don't give a fu#k uncool I look.
 

I'm in full aggreement wid the Boog'man, Scott!

But back on the topic of 'riding apparel' gear, in general, as opposed to specific brands (I'll post some links to examples), I have 2 general schemes of thought...

1. For most "temperate" (not too hot or too cold & not much rain expected) rides, I like the simplicity of textile jacket and pants.

My latest in this category is a FIRSTGEAR set.

PROS:
They have lots of pockets & vents.
They are (claimed to be) waterproof & jacket has a fold-out-of-collar hood.
They have removable liners (which can be worn as 'normal street clothes').
They have abrasion & impact protection.
It's really great not to have to stop & put rain gear on & off!!!

CONS:
In an extended rain ride, moisture will eventually find a way in (at least in places).
Even if you are dry inside, the outside of the jacket/pants gets saturated (you walk into a restaurant/rest room dripping all over).
When you walk around town in the pants, you feel kinda dorky (and they make noise when the legs brush up against each other).

MY SOLUTIONS:
If rain is even a possibility, I put my 'delicates' (cell phone/wallet/etc) in zip-lock baggies (which I always bring along).
I (almost) always wear bicycle shorts as underpants, so if I want to change pants in the open parking lot, it's not (too) em-bare-ass-ing.
If it's cold enough to be wearing the liner pants, they can serve as dungarees for being out on the town....or
If I know I will be doing some hiking or around-the-town stuff...I can wear my zip-off-legs convertible nylon pants underneath (as shorts or pants).
If I am on an extended trip or know much rain is expected, I still have to bring rain pants/jacket/boot covers/gloves (& or glove covers).

2. For trips where heat is going to be the main problem but (especially on extended trips) very cold temps may also be encountered, I have used this layering technique.
The minimum I wear are kevlar lined pants (with pockets for knee pads-which I might use, or not) and a mesh jacket with some impact protection built in (and pockets for additional-which I might or not use) and mesh gloves[/ur] and [url=http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/300948674303?lpid=82]modular helmet and low boots
I bring a evaporation-type cooling vest (which, when dry, can be another warm layer) & a couple "kool-ties" for around the neck (I can wear one, while soaking the other).
(Also a camelback type hydration bladder.)

If it's hot with intermittent rain, I often get soaked & dry out before my next stop.
But if it's cooler & or wetter I add these layers as needed:

windproof/waterproof liner jacket
outer rain jacket (with hood)/pants/glove & boot covers
Gerbing heated jacket/gloves
Polarfleece turtleneck chest protector

PROS:
Have done 2-up, 2-month long trips, with minimal gear (all, except what you are wearing as minimal gear, fits in lockable side & top cases).

CONS:
Have to stop and change layers as conditions change.

MY BASE GEAR:
As already mentioned, bicycle liner shorts with chamois liner (2 pair). I cut the elastic at the bottom of legs off for comfort (&, for me, they still do NOT ride up & remain in place).
2 pair each quick dry microfiber undies & Ts...(wash in sink-dry by morning-as will the bike shorts).
(I bring a "pin-less" clothesline.)
1 long sleeve microfiber crew neck shirt & 1 long sleeve micrfiber mock turtleneck.
(these all work in layers & the mock T can serve as a 'dressier' look, if needed).
Several pairs of quick drying socks, that also can be layered.

If I am solo, I may take items from both (1. & 2.) systems[/url]
 
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