your multi meter is your best friend in matters like this. of coarse jumping (like said previous) is easy.
put meter on dc volts positive probe on main starter connection and ground (black probe) on starter base. what volts when trying to crank?
repete test at the starter solenoid terminal put the red probe and black to starter base. what volts when cranking?
 
I assume pulling the plugs serves the same purpose as a decompression switch, my Stihl demolition saw has one to make it easier to pull.
I remember when most older diesel engines and big gas engines in the construction industry had a decompression lever to hold valves slightly open to allow engines to spin freely, build heat and oil pressure. They did that with a small starting engine that was mounted to the main engine before they went to a direct start battery power.
 
I remember when most older diesel engines and big gas engines in the construction industry had a decompression lever to hold valves slightly open to allow engines to spin freely, build heat and oil pressure. They did that with a small starting engine that was mounted to the main engine before they went to a direct start battery power.
Yup, that's my background too
 
Ok I took the Triumph starter out and opened it and looks nice as clean as my car one as you can see in picture.
When it starts it fires up nice but when it doesn't you just get a click the starter doesn't spin or fire up its like I'm not getting any power to there starter? I tried to get new relays and same thing .
I put cable on positive and cable on starter and starter will spin.
What will stop the starter frome not getting power all the time?
I bought new relays 12 volts I noticed the starter relay is 14 but relay is clicking so I would assume starter relay is good?
Claviger, said something about ignition circuit two relays which I don't understand how to do.
So thinking if I bought a stronger relay than a 14 say 20 or 30 ? Will that be doing the same thing?
 

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Ok I took the Triumph starter out and opened it and looks nice as clean as my car one as you can see in picture.
When it starts it fires up nice but when it doesn't you just get a click the starter doesn't spin or fire up its like I'm not getting any power to there starter? I tried to get new relays and same thing .
I put cable on positive and cable on starter and starter will spin.
What will stop the starter frome not getting power all the time?
I bought new relays 12 volts I noticed the starter relay is 14 but relay is clicking so I would assume starter relay is good?
Claviger, said something about ignition circuit two relays which I don't understand how to do.
So thinking if I bought a stronger relay than a 14 say 20 or 30 ? Will that be doing the same thing?
Sounds like you can rule starter out, sounds like starter button not making contact every time, slide it out of handle grip, polish contact points with crocus cloth or 400 sandpaper and lube with small amount of dielectric grease. Like everyone is saying, need to determine if battery is good first and foremost, then work SYSTEMATICLLY to find problem, jumping around just leads to frustration. Believe adding higher amp. relay won't increase/make amps, would just allow higher amps. to flow through, stock relay plenty strong enough. Claviger gave you some good things to do to help determine where problem is. Turbo's post about multimeter was solid. Reread the posts, everyone wants to help to see you ride. Keep working/thinking, you'll figure it out.
 
Ok I took the Triumph starter out and opened it and looks nice as clean as my car one as you can see in picture.
When it starts it fires up nice but when it doesn't you just get a click the starter doesn't spin or fire up its like I'm not getting any power to there starter? I tried to get new relays and same thing .
I put cable on positive and cable on starter and starter will spin.
What will stop the starter frome not getting power all the time?
I bought new relays 12 volts I noticed the starter relay is 14 but relay is clicking so I would assume starter relay is good?
Claviger, said something about ignition circuit two relays which I don't understand how to do.
So thinking if I bought a stronger relay than a 14 say 20 or 30 ? Will that be doing the same thing?

a stronger relay will not help.
if your starter relay is clicking then your electric to the relay is good (most likely) and every thing that energizes the relay is ok on those two circuits,
however there are two more circuits in that relay the positive wire andthat goes through the relay and two the starter solenoid that makes the starter solenoid apply and then it connects the two connections through that washer (in pictures) to make the starter turn.
so with out voltages like i asked for we are all guessing.
ok you can still get me the voltages that i want by doing the checks on the starter wires with out the starter in the rocket.
 
Sounds like you can rule starter out, sounds like starter button not making contact every time, slide it out of handle grip, polish contact points with crocus cloth or 400 sandpaper and lube with small amount of dielectric grease. Like everyone is saying, need to determine if battery is good first and foremost, then work SYSTEMATICLLY to find problem, jumping around just leads to frustration. Believe adding higher amp. relay won't increase/make amps, would just allow higher amps. to flow through, stock relay plenty strong enough. Claviger gave you some good things to do to help determine where problem is. Turbo's post about multimeter was solid. Reread the posts, everyone wants to help to see you ride. Keep working/thinking, you'll figure it out.

if he can feel the relay click (i am assuming the one on the right side of the bike) then the starter button, the clutch switch. nuetral switch kick stand switch is all working good.
what we don'tknow is whether it is getting power to the starter relay or through the starter relay to the starter solenoid and the only way i know to do that is with a volt meter or a 12 volt test light with voltage readings.
if someone has a different way i am listening.
 
My friend knows a bike mechanic and he's coming over here tonight at 7:30 pm so I'll let him read all your guys great solutions that might be the problem , that will give him a better idea on what could be the problem on the Rocket and hopefully he can get it cracking every time. I'll keep you guys posted and see who's correct:) fingers crossed.
 
My friend knows a bike mechanic and he's coming over here tonight at 7:30 pm so I'll let him read all your guys great solutions that might be the problem , that will give him a better idea on what could be the problem on the Rocket and hopefully he can get it cracking every time. I'll keep you guys posted and see who's correct:) fingers crossed.

your mechanic may not be as good as you are thinking
:laugh: :laugh: :roll::roll::roll:
 
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