SHOCKS

[1olbull]

I could be dead wrong,.but back in the day we used shorter shocks to drop the bike which looked good but resulted in a choppy ride.

From my experience, I recommend NOT going with short shockies.
$hit will drag and gouge! Things can/will get muy peligroso rápido!!!

 

[barbagris]

I would consider setting your static sag at 1.25 inch rear and 1.4 inch front for a start.

'kinell - that's a lot. I run about 20-22mm front and rear. What dampers have you got in the front?

 

[barbagris]

From my experience, ---- Things can/will get muy peligroso rápido!!!

I think this may have something to do with the pilot - perhaps - hmmmm

I have not ground anything in ages (with Classic boards and over-length warning pins) - pretty much since I changed the rears to Fournales (a bit over length iirc). And I am close to running off both tyres - So I don't intend to push further to find out - OK?

Good shorter travel hydraulics would not be choppy. Well, SHOULD not be. I have reduced my front travel and it's like velvet. Better than full travel. Knocked about 18-20mm off. No real nose diving even at rear rubber loses traction levels.

With hindsight (it's a wonderful thing) - I would liked to have had adjustable 2(3) stage damping. But it's one less thing for me to play with.

 

[Ishrub]

OK, I finally received my shocks back from Progressive. Looking at the numbers on the springs they have 1436 210/250 printed on them. I would assume that they would be the standard duty springs. I put all my weight on the shocks and they do not move the slightest bit and that is with the springs backed all the way off. Progressive says they check out just fine. I can't believe that they check out. This was very disappointing and I am getting ready to go on a big ride. I will be cringing at the sight of any bump in the road !!!

They are the correct spring for Standard Duty which for most users would include a pillion or luggage at least some of the time.
http://www.progressivesuspension.com/pdfs/7100-105.pdf
Page 21
Order No. 444-4229B/C This is the complete shock code
Ext. Length In 12.00
Ext. Length mm 304.80
Comp.* Length In 9.51
Comp. Length mm 241.55
Travel* Inch 2.49
Travel* MM 63
Mnts. E/E
Spring No. 1436-20B/30 This is the replacement spring code
Rate lbs/In 210/250
Rate kg/mm 3.75/4.46

With your 200lb solo you are obviously at the lower end of your current spring rate range 210-250lb per spring (410-500lb total) hence not much if any sag. Remember the weight of the bike over the rear wheel has to be supported as well as the rider/passenger and luggage.

I would get a lighter spring if you do not carry much if any luggage or passenger and want a softer feel which may compromise your handling slightly when pushing it hard.

Order No. 444-4050B/C This is the complete shock code
Ext. Length In 12.00
Ext. Length mm 304.80
Comp.* Length In 9.26
Comp. Length mm 235.18
Travel* Inch 2.74
Travel* MM 70
Mnts. E/E
Spring No. 1375-20B/30 This is the replacement spring code
Rate lbs/In 115/155
Rate kg/mm 2.05/2.77

 

[sonny]

No problems at all with the 444-4233b shocks. (Fat Boy) If I was 50 to 75 pounds lighter would have gone with the 444-4209b. Just saying

 

[Nat67]

I think this may have something to do with the pilot - perhaps - hmmmm

I have not ground anything in ages (with Classic boards and over-length warning pins) - pretty much since I changed the rears to Fournales (a bit over length iirc). And I am close to running off both tyres - So I don't intend to push further to find out - OK?

Good shorter travel hydraulics would not be choppy. Well, SHOULD not be. I have reduced my front travel and it's like velvet. Better than full travel. Knocked about 18-20mm off. No real nose diving even at rear rubber loses traction levels.

With hindsight (it's a wonderful thing) - I would liked to have had adjustable 2(3) stage damping. But it's one less thing for me to play with.

That's coz you gotta tie yourself down with bungey straps to avoid blowing off ! Your bike don't even know your on it .

 

[zman8537]

I have the shocks backed all the way off and I can't get an inch of sag let alone 1.25" of sag. The guy that I spoke to at Progressive said that they did not have a lighter spring that they could install on the shocks. I kinda found that hard to believe too, but that is my luck !

 

[Ishrub]

I have the shocks backed all the way off and I can't get an inch of sag let alone 1.25" of sag. The guy that I spoke to at Progressive said that they did not have a lighter spring that they could install on the shocks. I kinda found that hard to believe too, but that is my luck !

Well that was clearly bullsh*t, I just posted one ( Post#64 above) and if you look at the link to the Progressive .pdf document you will see there are lighter and heavier springs than the ones I posted and you have.

 

[barbagris]

That's coz you gotta tie yourself down with bungey straps to avoid blowing off ! Your bike don't even know your on it .

Silly man - I use magnetic boots - it is the 21st century after all. How they work on aluminum is a mystery though.
And anyway, I have a thing called a WIND-SCREEN. Excellent for us weight challenged types. ------------------- Fatty!.
And it knows! - it sings with joy, and the whole world hears.

 

[Nat67]

Silly man - I use magnetic boots - it is the 21st century after all. How they work on aluminum is a mystery though.
And anyway, I have a thing called a WIND-SCREEN. Excellent for us weight challenged types. ------------------- Fatty!.
And it knows! - it sings with joy, and the whole world hears.

There you go being fattist again .!
They need to be magnetic or summat , else you be blowing around in the wind like a Jolly Roger !