Rocket 3 discontinued (fails emissions tests)

[barbagris]

Under EU law - service parts MUST remain available for 10 years. The reality is that some become VERY VERY scarce.
Then after about 10 years all sorts of after-market producers see the need. Anybody with an old (pre-'80's) Guzzi knows.
And Real Enfileds are a doddle to find parts for

I personally cannot see the problem with a Diesel Bike. Most 2L Turbo Diesels can push out 150bhp and with more torque. And geared for a bike - would be close to 70mpg-ish.

All this does is reinforce my happiness that I ..... live in a place with super clean air and no emissions testing.

But where SPAM is a food staple? - <shudder>.

 

[geneseo1911]

I personally cannot see the problem with a Diesel Bike. Most 2L Turbo Diesels can push out 150bhp and with more torque. And geared for a bike - would be close to 70mpg-ish.

A diesel bike would be cool, but in the us, to meet tier 4 final emissions, it would have to have scr and dpf. The scr is doable, but the dpf filters run 1100 deg. F (600 deg. C) when regenerating. Not sure where to put that on the bike. I believe eu regs are similar if not worse. Government regs have ruined the efficiency of diesel engines.

I saw this: Driven By Bacon the other day. They said it was built from an eva track t800cdi, which according to wikipedia build about 20 bikes from 2009-12. Engine was from a smart car. Apparently Mercedes built it and only used cegr to meet European regs, but still couldn't meet the us standard. I see its not offered in the new model, so euro 4 must've killed it too.

 

[Rob D]

Same cwap been going on for years. Ever get behind a bus at a red light, and choke on the fumes, but it's legal, yet my little lawnmower is illegal. Remember when almost all cars/trucks, had air pumps? Pumping air into the exhaust manifold. Claiming it helped burn off UN-burnt fuel coming out the exhaust? When in reality all they were doing is diluting the exhaust with fresh air from the pump, causing the reading at the tail pipe to look OK. As long as they (Gobments) keep measuring by parts per million, instead of say for instance, "volume", (50CC Moped vs 10,000CC bus) my lawnmowers and weedeaters will never be legal. Sometimes smarter is dumber.

This is a very lucid comment. I never would have tied all this together.

 

[Claviger]

@barbagris thankfully I'll be moving away from the rediculous spam loving state to Washington soon. Still no emissions, and no spam love yay!!

This discussion actually makes me wonder about the upcoming Daytona 800, betting to meet Euro4 it's going to be only a mild bump in HP over the 675, but a good bit of torque o very the 675.

 

[Andy Arizona]

Been told the same by two major dealers - they believe that what is out there will appreciate in value as there is an end of production due to emissions rules. Great news for any owners ( same happened to GSX 1400 - look what a good one fetches now) but not so great if looking to purchase. Time will tell...

Add a background check, a 6-month waiting period, and only 1 per lifetime restriction and those puppies will fly off the dealer's showroom floor! The emissions hook is just a tied fly to a whaleshark...;o)

 

[scot in exile]

This story has been going around for about 5 or 6 years now?

actually a bit longer than that

 

[rocketjohn]

I am pretty sure mine would fail an emissions test...but I can tell you it is running very lean, even derestricted and all. If it was running the factory map it would be running on pure air!

 

[Boog]

I was thinking about this emissions thing; isn't that a good cause to pull out of the EU?

 

[EasTexRIII]

I was thinking about this emissions thing; isn't that a good cause to pull out of the EU?

It's one of em

 

[Nat67]

I was thinking about this emissions thing; isn't that a good cause to pull out of the EU?

That , along with many others ! Bit of a double edged sword tho I guess ? Coz it means no exports of these models to Europe and so not enough sales to be viable !