Lets Talk Cams

warp9.9 said:

If I am reading this right he confusion here is a cams only uses the OME valve springs. A cam package uses Cams spring retainers and under the shim buckets. the problem here is waht was Art Meaning when he said cams only? Most people think cams only is a drop in not havingto change the springs retainers and I and bucket shim over set up. Until we get this right this thread might as well be about car tires, Harley Davidisons, or Indians !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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TriumPhil said:

This is just for you, Nev... a gift from the Ghost of Christmas Future from Berlin, NJ:

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Neville Lush said:

This is from some pages back, Neville Lush said: ↑
Scorp has all bolt in's. Pistons/cams only. No headwork ,stock valves/springs etc etc. To get 200 with any exhaust/air filter you will need compression as well as camshaft, unless you rev the snot off it and have no low end power. High 160's is common with exh/air/ good tune. I do not believe it is possible to get 200hp and 180 tq under 6800rpm without taking off the head.JUST CAMS. Art cannot show me that in a graph as it has not been done, as described. We all know ad nauseum, it is possible to get over 200hp with all manner of things. Maybe you yanks will get a new secret package from Bob out of this discussion. Hope you do. Have a nice day folks.
You quoted the above paragraph ART.
JUST CAMS is what you claimed ART. Drop them in , in an afternoon I believe I said, without taking off the head. The point is not what else you can do, or rather Bob, but whether you can get a Rock to do 200hp and 180ft with JUST CAMS as YOU claimed. I'm ready with my card to buy a set which,should be no problem, as you have BEEN THERE,so you said. Give me the part number so I can get the exact right part when I call. All I shall need is the camshafts,as I have gaskets and some slotted gears in stock. No other parts required. This is the last post on this subject for me I just tripped over a dead horse..........

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Neville Lush said:

Scorp has all bolt in's. Pistons/cams only. No headwork ,stock valves/springs etc etc. To get 200 with any exhaust/air filter you will need compression as well as camshaft, unless you rev the snot off it and have no low end power. High 160's is common with exh/air/ good tune. I do not believe it is possible to get 200hp and 180 tq under 6800rpm without taking off the head.JUST CAMS. Art cannot show me that in a graph as it has not been done, as described. We all know ad nauseum, it is possible to get over 200hp with all manner of things. Maybe you yanks will get a new secret package from Bob out of this discussion. Hope you do. Have a nice day folks.

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Neville Lush said:

This is from some pages back, Neville Lush said: ↑
Scorp has all bolt in's. Pistons/cams only. No headwork ,stock valves/springs etc etc. To get 200 with any exhaust/air filter you will need compression as well as camshaft, unless you rev the snot off it and have no low end power. High 160's is common with exh/air/ good tune. I do not believe it is possible to get 200hp and 180 tq under 6800rpm without taking off the head.JUST CAMS. Art cannot show me that in a graph as it has not been done, as described. We all know ad nauseum, it is possible to get over 200hp with all manner of things. Maybe you yanks will get a new secret package from Bob out of this discussion. Hope you do. Have a nice day folks.
You quoted the above paragraph ART.
JUST CAMS is what you claimed ART. Drop them in , in an afternoon I believe I said, without taking off the head. The point is not what else you can do, or rather Bob, but whether you can get a Rock to do 200hp and 180ft with JUST CAMS as YOU claimed. I'm ready with my card to buy a set which,should be no problem, as you have BEEN THERE,so you said. Give me the part number so I can get the exact right part when I call. All I shall need is the camshafts,as I have gaskets and some slotted gears in stock. No other parts required. This is the last post on this subject for me I just tripped over a dead horse..........

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