Installation of Neville Lush Racing "street" cams in 2014 Rocket III Touring

[barbagris]

In honor of July 4th.

OK - it's an undercover op, and this is appreciated by the rank and file of the other displaced colonials.
You are hereby sentenced to 10 full renditions of

 

[Fingers]

Glad to hear you got the cams sorted,persistence at its best .

 

[DEcosse]

... Even with numerous tips and checks, I managed to set the cam timing exactly one revolution out of phase. Timing marks all lined up, cam marks all lined up, number one piston high. And incorrect....]

I'm not following
Crank makes two revolutions for each cam revolution - If cams are aligned at TDC, then it makes no difference whether that is on rev 1 or rev 2 of the crank - the ignition timing rotor is also going to be in same position with respect to TDC regardless of on rev 1 or rev 2 also.
And timing for Ignition and Injector is based on combo of the CPS position and the MAP sensor reading.
???

 

[Bob R]

I'm not following
Crank makes two revolutions for each cam revolution - If cams are aligned at TDC, then it makes no difference whether that is on rev 1 or rev 2 of the crank - the ignition timing rotor is also going to be in same position with respect to TDC regardless of on rev 1 or rev 2 also.
And timing for Ignition and Injector is based on combo of the CPS position and the MAP sensor reading.
???

This is also my understanding. What an I missing?

bob

 

[Claviger]

Crank position sensor. The ECU think's the bikes finishing the compression stroke and about to start the power stroke when it's actually at the end of exhaust beginning of intake.

I know people think the R3/Khein ECUs are wasted spark.... they're not, it's full sequential spark and fuel.

Because of that its firing the injector and coil 180 out, so, yeah I'm totally shocked it even started myself tbh.

The other gent, @Jester 76 I suspect has exactly the same problem, which I mentioned very early in that thread.

You know why? I've done exactly the same thing on other DOHC motors!

The missing teeth need to come around at the right time as the vacuum pulse from that cylinder.

Now that I think about it more, @DEcosse my mind does the same loop as your statement, it shouldn't matter, however, anecdotally I know it does from personal experience.

 

[Claviger]

Maybe a misunderstanding about which cylinder is #3 and which is #1?

1 Front 3 Back is what I always had in my mind.

 

[Rocket Scientist]

I'm not getting it either. The piston just goes up and down. The valve timing decides if it's on power or intake stroke ?

 

[Claviger]

I have suspicion the cams were 180 out, not the crank after rereading what Joe posted.

 

[Paul Bryant]

Because of that its firing the injector and coil 180 out, so, yeah I'm totally shocked it even started myself tbh.
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But it wasn't 180° out it was one full revolution, 360° out so this would make no difference what so ever.
The piston has gone down, it has come back up.
The Rotor with the gap between the "teeth" has rotated 360° and is right back where it started from.

Same with the Cams, piston set on the crank timing marks, set the cam in position, rotate the cam(s) one full turn, it's right back where it started from.
And no, no way it would run if it was 180° out.

Unless I've miss read some thing here ....

Warpo, tell us what you found.

 

[Claviger]

Indeed, it's all so confusing hah.