End of Touring

[rayjay]

So it looks like the end of the road for the Touring..will the Roadster follow and if so what will replace it.
I think that depends on whether Triumph want to keep the title of biggest production engine
Although 2015 is supposedly a big year for Triumph..something special is coming

RJ

 

[Triple Trouble]

Maybe a big sports bike again. A lot of people complained when they dropped the big Daytona and in 2015 the Daytona 200 race which Triumph just won will feature bigger superbikes again. Look for a new 1200cc Thruxton with, of course, way more power. The sports bike is a guess but the Thruxton is coming.

 

[kblahetka]

I don't know why they don't make a thunderbird that looks like a classic t-bird or a bonnie on the thunderbird motor. I would buy a 1700cc bonnie.

 

[Watcher]

All I know is the touring is the closest thing Triumph has to a cruiser for a lot of mile yes the have the explorer but when are they going to have a great rode bike cruise radio ect. ya a lot of you guys dont use or need these things but look at HD gold wing ect. that do they sale that is a fact I would love to see a true touring from triumph but I dont think it will happen

 

[rayjay]

Maybe a big sports bike again. A lot of people complained when they dropped the big Daytona and in 2015 the Daytona 200 race which Triumph just won will feature bigger superbikes again. Look for a new 1200cc Thruxton with, of course, way more power. The sports bike is a guess but the Thruxton is coming.

There was some talk of the Trident name being dusted off

RJ

 

[ksquared]

The more I think about this the more I think Triumph's going to do something unique with the 2300 triple.

It's reputed that Triumph has 12 new models coming out over the next two years. Where Triumph is unsuccessful is where they enter into markets with a clear and distinct segment leader. Look at the Trophy 1200 Sport-tourer; sales have been very poor - Triumph is butting heads with the BMW R1200 and 1300 GTs and not getting the better of it. Same with the Tiger 1200 Explorer; sales are a little better, but nothing like what BMW is doing with the 1200/1300. especially now with water cooling on the BMW's. So I think it's unlikely that they're going to do a Goldwing or K1600 GTL competitor with the 2300.

On the other hand, where they have GREAT success is where they set the standard in the segment (like the Daytona 675, which has been universally praised by everyone who has tested it as the BEST sportbike in its segment); or the Speed Triple or Street Triple, which everyone agrees are unique; class-setting rides; or the Bonnies, which are the most successful of the retro classics being sold by any manufacturer.

So I think that if Triumph is going to seriously penetrate the touring market - they're going to do it with a unique tourer based on the 2300 triple. I'm not smart enough to know how or what, but I think they'll tune it more along the lines of the Roadster tune and make it a truly high-performance touring bike. I think the only thing near it's class will be the K1600 GTL - but I think that Triumph is going to try hard to distinguish any high-performance tourer from that bike - rather than compete with it. Weight will be an issue with the 2300 and I don't know how they will get around that. Maybe something along the lines of the Victory Vision, but with less controversial styling and higher performance.

Anyway, I don't think they're going to abandon the 2300 - at least I sure hope not. I think it's one of the great engines motorcycling has produced - the kind of thing that 100 years from now, they'll talk about like they talk about the Curtiss 8s from 1908, the Ariel Square Four and the old Indian fours.

Just my opinion.

 

[cusso ken]

The more I think about this the more I think Triumph's going to do something unique with the 2300 triple.

It's reputed that Triumph has 12 new models coming out over the next two years. Where Triumph is unsuccessful is where they enter into markets with a clear and distinct segment leader. Look at the Trophy 1200 Sport-tourer; sales have been very poor - Triumph is butting heads with the BMW R1200 and 1300 GTs and not getting the better of it. Same with the Tiger 1200 Explorer; sales are a little better, but nothing like what BMW is doing with the 1200/1300. especially now with water cooling on the BMW's. So I think it's unlikely that they're going to do a Goldwing or K1600 GTL competitor with the 2300.

On the other hand, where they have GREAT success is where they set the standard in the segment (like the Daytona 675, which has been universally praised by everyone who has tested it as the BEST sportbike in its segment); or the Speed Triple or Street Triple, which everyone agrees are unique; class-setting rides; or the Bonnies, which are the most successful of the retro classics being sold by any manufacturer.

So I think that if Triumph is going to seriously penetrate the touring market - they're going to do it with a unique tourer based on the 2300 triple. I'm not smart enough to know how or what, but I think they'll tune it more along the lines of the Roadster tune and make it a truly high-performance touring bike. I think the only thing near it's class will be the K1600 GTL - but I think that Triumph is going to try hard to distinguish any high-performance tourer from that bike - rather than compete with it. Weight will be an issue with the 2300 and I don't know how they will get around that. Maybe something along the lines of the Victory Vision, but with less controversial styling and higher performance.

Anyway, I don't think they're going to abandon the 2300 - at least I sure hope not. I think it's one of the great engines motorcycling has produced - the kind of thing that 100 years from now, they'll talk about like they talk about the Curtiss 8s from 1908, the Ariel Square Four and the old Indian fours.

Just my opinion.

Well said ,the problem I see is the non aggressive marketing by Triumph generally ,they have the Tump card (pardon the pun) in the biggest production motor cycle engine in the world but how often do you see this in print ,if any of the other manufacturers had this advantage it would be plastered over every Motor cycle magazine ,Polaris and Harley already imply that their engines are "huge" 110 and 111 Cubic inch but triumph don't bother , I would like a year in their advertising department at the salary they I suppose receive and put out some real product exposure ,like from the land of the V12 merlin comes the Rocket 3 or something along those lines ,it's like the Missouri battle ship hiding it's 16inch guns which is one of the things people first think about when this Great ship is Mentioned ,
just my 2 bobs worth!

 

[BIKER]

I believe triumph need to step up and make a true tour with a fairing hard bags a trunk ..all the bells and whistle ..or many will move on ..

Ed

 

[TOMCAT]

The more I think about this the more I think Triumph's going to do something unique with the 2300 triple.

It's reputed that Triumph has 12 new models coming out over the next two years. Where Triumph is unsuccessful is where they enter into markets with a clear and distinct segment leader. Look at the Trophy 1200 Sport-tourer; sales have been very poor - Triumph is butting heads with the BMW R1200 and 1300 GTs and not getting the better of it. Same with the Tiger 1200 Explorer; sales are a little better, but nothing like what BMW is doing with the 1200/1300. especially now with water cooling on the BMW's. So I think it's unlikely that they're going to do a Goldwing or K1600 GTL competitor with the 2300.

On the other hand, where they have GREAT success is where they set the standard in the segment (like the Daytona 675, which has been universally praised by everyone who has tested it as the BEST sportbike in its segment); or the Speed Triple or Street Triple, which everyone agrees are unique; class-setting rides; or the Bonnies, which are the most successful of the retro classics being sold by any manufacturer.

So I think that if Triumph is going to seriously penetrate the touring market - they're going to do it with a unique tourer based on the 2300 triple. I'm not smart enough to know how or what, but I think they'll tune it more along the lines of the Roadster tune and make it a truly high-performance touring bike. I think the only thing near it's class will be the K1600 GTL - but I think that Triumph is going to try hard to distinguish any high-performance tourer from that bike - rather than compete with it. Weight will be an issue with the 2300 and I don't know how they will get around that. Maybe something along the lines of the Victory Vision, but with less controversial styling and higher performance.

Anyway, I don't think they're going to abandon the 2300 - at least I sure hope not. I think it's one of the great engines motorcycling has produced - the kind of thing that 100 years from now, they'll talk about like they talk about the Curtiss 8s from 1908, the Ariel Square Four and the old Indian fours.

Just my opinion.

Sounds like good thinking to me .. both the 2.3 litre and 1200cc power plants are awesome for sports/tourers .. a new larger capacity Bonnie is on the way. Maybe a 1200 Speed Triple , naked bike. Triumph should stick to what they have had proven success with .. out of the box unique bikes , and stop trying to compete with long established market leaders.

 

[Sensfan]

They should seriously review.their marketing strategy,I'm surprised at how.many people thought Triumph was dead and out of business.