Considering a Rocket 3..

While I love my Rocket Roadster, the Diavel is also a great (but very different) bike. The Rocket is a big cruiser with a huge engine and good brakes. The Diavel is essentially a sportbike with a more upright riding position and an oversize rear tire. The Diavel is much more nimble and will blow the Rocket away in the twisties. The light weight and small size also make it good for urban commuting, but it's not comfortable enough for any longer trips.

The Rocket on the other hand is in its element on the open road, and is very comfortable on longer trips. It's also stable and enjoyable in the corners, but there's no escaping the weight, especially in slow hairpin turns. For me the biggest selling point of the Rocket is the engine. The immediate power delivery from 2,500 RPM up is something you just have to experience yourself on a test ride. Sure, the Diavel is the faster bike stock, but you have to ride it like a sportbike to have fun. The Rocket offers instant gratification when you just roll the throttle at any speed :)

While I hope you end up with a Rocket, you should test ride both bikes. They are so different that I think your decision should be much easier after having ridden both.
 
New guy here. Prior bikes were Honda, Kawi and most recently a Ducati S4.

Been off bikes for 8 years. 61 years old. 5 ft 11. 250 pounds. Very active and fairly fit.

Looking for a new bike. Read about the R3 and looked at one. it is huge. When i sit on it my are seem a bit too far apart and the tank feels pretty massive. I suppose that is what to expect on a beast of this size. My other options are Ducati Diavel.

I have no interest in V rod !

Riding will be local on weekends and maybe a bit of commuting but no panniers makes that tough with laptop. No touring in my future.

I asked about a test ride and salesman said if i call ahead they will set up an appointment."We have a nice 6 mile loop we can take you on."

Never before have I been escorted on a test ride and certainly not limited to a 5-10 minute test ride. i'd like to keep it a bit longer and experience highway and some twisties.

Am i being unreasonable? Are they being unreasonable?

They are the only dealer within 100 miles so i am sort of stuck.

Any thoughts are appreciated.

Truthfully how does the R3 respond in the curves? I know it is heavy and will respond slower than a Diavel or Duc monster but I assume once I commit to a line it will hold it pretty well.

Lastly any of you folks sorry you got the R3 as opposed to something else.

While the Diavel, Vmax, and R3 get grouped together by all the review sites they are nothing like each other. Test ride all if you can, pick the one that suits. They are so close in power stock, it really is a riders race. I must admit, I was in the Ducati dealership last week eyeing a Diavel Carbon, they are sexy imo, and I do LOVE the sound of a furiously pissed off Vtwin, but when I gut check myself about getting rid of the R3.... nope, not unless it's for a newer R3.
Like you I felt the R3 was a bit too wide, a bit too heavy, and a bit too bulky. Once you have your first couple of minutes though, most people instantly commit to relearning to ride because the rocket is so fun. It does take a good bit of recalibration mentally compared to a sportbike, that's what I came from previously also.
Personally, I knew I was in love the very first time I got into second gear and spun it to redline, the immense pull of the rocket is like nothing else on two wheels, not even the mighty Vmax/H2/Busa/ZX14 will give the same arm wrenching feeling of torque!
At first, she'll feel a bit akward. Within a couple days you'll be flinging it around like a Monster laughing your ass off and all the while the back of your brain will say "This giant motorcycle has no business being this good or agile".
It's truly a bike in a class of its own, it has no peer. In my opinion neither does the Diavel or Vmax though, it's 3 VERY different approaches to "Muscle Cruising". That said, as an all around bike for comfort/agility/speed/touring, nothing on God's green earth can do everything to the same level as the rocket can without swapping out parts.

Forgot to add, the bike is a old design, a good thing in this case. Triumph have sorted out the vast majority of quirks that originally came free of charge, so buying a late model R3 gets a whole bunch of minor, unadvertised upgrades the original reviewers knew nothing about. It's also massively overbuilt from the factory, while any vehicle can have warranty issues, the R3s that do have them tend to be rare and usually have very minor issues that are easily remedied.

Then there's the community here. This forum is so full of R3 wizards it's rediculous. In all my days, I have never seen a forum where no matter what niche crazy thing I ask about, someone knows the right answer, and usually within a couple of hours of posting!

Then of course, there's the headroom when the power bug bites, not if, but when. Hands down, the rocket has the most headroom to grow for reasonable amounts of cash.

Want 210 who and 190ish tq? Cool, spend 4grand. Try and get 210 with a diavel...it's gona cost more than the price of the bike originally.

240 is another 3k. It keeps going till you get into the Warp 9.9 levels of power, where, let's be real, cash is secondary to the ability to bend space and time on a Bagger! He's somwhere here north of 400whp on a intentionally detuned motor from I recall...
 
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It is basic physics, doesn't matter what size you are, as soon as it is moving you are manipulating what the engineers have built into the bike. If you are doing slow tight u-turns you will have to be a bit more mindful than on smaller (lesser) bikes. The thing is you have an enormous amount of torque off idle so you just need to feather the clutch to maintain momentum. Beware of off camber surfaces at slow speed because the physics of a 700 lb bike can bite. That's all the slow speed stuff, now the physics of applying 140 hp through a 240 tire with so much torque off 1200 rpm requires a gentle hand and a bit of counter steering. All the guys here know and love their Rockets, we are a dedicated bunch. The real problem comes after you have had the bike for a while and when you try to imagine owning/riding anything else, there are not many options left!

You will find that the R3 is very adaptive to your riding style because there is so much power and torque, use it as you see fit. I personally are over all the harder riding and actually ride it very conservatively, short shifting at about 1500 rpm and just cruising. When I need it I know I have a ton in store. I find the bike easy to handle generally, but I would push it too hard in the twisties, but it is still surprisingly agile.

Good luck with your choice whatever that may be. If you go Triumph you will no regret it!
 
i test rode one about three hours but within 20 minutes i knew i was having one,i ride alot in the mountains with guys that have nimble bikes i was finding it hard work chasing them,so i decided to downsize.I bought a bonneville,but i cant bring myself to sell the rocket and the wife wont let me, she dont like riding the bonnie.if one goes it will be the bonnie.iv had the 09 rocket from new,the only problem iv had was a TPS.35KMILES
 
Buy it, you won't regret it and you will still be smiling every time you ride it even years from now :thumbsup:
 
If you don't know the Rocket is the bike for you in that length of test drive, it probably isn't. But, as has already been suggested multiple times, take your checkbook with you, you will need it when the ride is done.
 
New guy here. Prior bikes were Honda, Kawi and most recently a Ducati S4.

Been off bikes for 8 years. 61 years old. 5 ft 11. 250 pounds. Very active and fairly fit.

Looking for a new bike. Read about the R3 and looked at one. it is huge. When i sit on it my are seem a bit too far apart and the tank feels pretty massive. I suppose that is what to expect on a beast of this size. My other options are Ducati Diavel.

I have no interest in V rod !

Riding will be local on weekends and maybe a bit of commuting but no panniers makes that tough with laptop. No touring in my future.

I asked about a test ride and salesman said if i call ahead they will set up an appointment."We have a nice 6 mile loop we can take you on."

Never before have I been escorted on a test ride and certainly not limited to a 5-10 minute test ride. i'd like to keep it a bit longer and experience highway and some twisties.

Am i being unreasonable? Are they being unreasonable?

They are the only dealer within 100 miles so i am sort of stuck.

Any thoughts are appreciated.

Truthfully how does the R3 respond in the curves? I know it is heavy and will respond slower than a Diavel or Duc monster but I assume once I commit to a line it will hold it pretty well.

Lastly any of you folks sorry you got the R3 as opposed to something else.
I rode the MAX and Diavel they are both more expensive than the Rocket The Diavel is not comfy at all and like they say a sport bike with higher bars but I would buy a Zx14 as its much faster than the Diavel The V max is an odd bike also not as comfy as the Rocket and it has a very small fuel tank and gets poor gas mileage about 20 mpg so you have to stop for fuel every 60 miles and thats a pain in the ass
 
I'm 67, 5'9" and 170 lbs. I could not ride a sport bike like a Diavel. Hips and knees can't take it. I've had two R3's and a Thunderbird.If you can live with less power (I couldn't), the T-Bird is a good choice. It's lower and feels lighter. Handles better although it has less ground clearance. The 1700 will kick any HD butt (except V-Rod).
 
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