Another New Dark Sider

[Rocken C]

This was the first time I have installed a car tire on my personal bike. I went with a General Altimax HP 205/60/16. The tire is a tight fit to get it passed the dust cover but went on much easier than expected.

After reading all the comments on here and doing some more reading on the gold wing form I just went for it.

I've only done about 100 miles on it sense it was installed, I am very happy with the way the bike handles over the stock tire and the ride. Went down the most messed up roads that are around here. Through curves and a section of road that was ground up for repaving, and a dirt road. The new tire hugged just as good in the corners as the m/c tire. Installing a new front next week. If you haven't tried it, give it a shot you might like (this applies to this subject mater only lol).

Ill let you know how it goes after the front install and what I install.

Thank ya folks for voicing your opinions and comments.

 

[Elvis]

This was the first time I have installed a car tire on my personal bike. I went with a General Altimax HP 205/60/16. The tire is a tight fit to get it passed the dust cover but went on much easier than expected.

After reading all the comments on here and doing some more reading on the gold wing form I just went for it.

I've only done about 100 miles on it sense it was installed, I am very happy with the way the bike handles over the stock tire and the ride. Went down the most messed up roads that are around here. Through curves and a section of road that was ground up for repaving, and a dirt road. The new tire hugged just as good in the corners as the m/c tire. Installing a new front next week. If you haven't tried it, give it a shot you might like (this applies to this subject mater only lol).

Ill let you know how it goes after the front install and what I install.

Thank ya folks for voicing your opinions and comments.

I am running the exact same tire on the same color bike, it has about 9k miles on it. It has been to North GA, Tail of the Dragon, Cherhola Skyway, and to Fort Collins, CO through several passes. Wait until it rains and you find that new confidence, or someone pulls out in front of you and the mc tire would have put you into the car but this tire will actually allow you to stop.

 

[albertaduke]

someone pulls out in front of you and the MC tire would have put you in the car but this tire will actually allow you to stop..

I strongly beg to differ you are implying that a car tire would make you avoid the possibility of an accident but if you used your front brakes the way it is supposed to be used you would not have an accident either regardless of what is mounted in the back.
the fallacy of the rear brake usage is unfortunately so prevalent it pains me to know that some riders (mostly my age ) are still considering the rear wheel brake as either the main or the equivalent of 50% OF BRAKING FORCE or maybe more . it is not unless you have a pillion passenger that rear brake has a mean effective braking coefficient of about 15 % so a car tire may go up another 5% maybe but it will never be as efficient as the front wheel brake in any situation and the tire has very little to do with it it is the transfer of masses that makes the front wheel brake the 80% efficiency . I have explained in previous post the empiric bicycle test
to prove that point and hopefully help some captains from browning their shorts and I will keep posting to that effect just to help some diehard rear wheel user from frightening moments

 

[Trirocket3]

someone pulls out in front of you and the MC tire would have put you in the car but this tire will actually allow you to stop..

I strongly beg to differ you are implying that a car tire would make you avoid the possibility of an accident but if you used your front brakes the way it is supposed to be used you would not have an accident either regardless of what is mounted in the back.
the fallacy of the rear brake usage is unfortunately so prevalent it pains me to know that some riders (mostly my age ) are still considering the rear wheel brake as either the main or the equivalent of 50% OF BRAKING FORCE or maybe more . it is not unless you have a pillion passenger that rear brake has a mean effective braking coefficient of about 15 % so a car tire may go up another 5% maybe but it will never be as efficient as the front wheel brake in any situation and the tire has very little to do with it it is the transfer of masses that makes the front wheel brake the 80% efficiency . I have explained in previous post the empiric bicycle test
to prove that point and hopefully help some captains from browning their shorts and I will keep posting to that effect just to help some diehard rear wheel user from frightening moments

Yes absolutely agree with all of that, but rain was included in the original claim & if rear braking traction could be improved it would show more in a situation where front cannot be used to its maximum effect ie rain/slippery surface, hence less weight transfer to the front allowing slightly more rear traction, not a huge amount but some.

 

[STRIPES]

Is TP sick? I can't believe he or his brother haven't vomited on this thread yet.

 

[joey fletcher]

Rocken

You might want to do some burn outs on dirt to get all the mold wax off the tire...the edge and shoulders are hard to get clean.

Don't want you to find out the hard way.....first time it gets wet there...100 miles is nothing for getting the mold release off.

 

[tdragger]

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the fallacy of the rear brake usage is unfortunately so prevalent it pains me to know that some riders (mostly my age ) are still considering the rear wheel brake as either the main or the equivalent of 50% OF BRAKING FORCE or maybe more . it is not unless you have a pillion passenger that rear brake has a mean effective braking coefficient of about 15 % so a car tire may go up another 5% maybe but it will never be as efficient as the front wheel brake in any situation and the tire has very little to do with it it is the transfer of masses that makes the front wheel brake the 80% efficiency .

Agree 100%. It also pains me to see or hear of riders who only use the rear brake.

HOWEVER, one major benefit of having the car tire out back is that the rear end won't lock up and slide out anywhere near as easy as the stock Metzler's will do. While not providing the real braking force that one might be expecting, the c/t certainly provides more confidence that when you do make use of it for braking that it won't lock up and slide.

...still waiting for the flamers to inform us about their superior braking techniques, and that they've never worn our their brake pads, and that they get 50,000 miles out of the Metzlers, Avons, and/or Bridgies.

 

[albertaduke]

Agree 100%. It also pains me to see or hear of riders who only use the rear brake.

HOWEVER, one major benefit of having the car tire out back is that the rear end won't lock up and slide out anywhere near as easy as the stock Metzler's will do. While not providing the real braking force that one might be expecting, the c/t certainly provides more confidence that when you do make use of it for braking that it won't lock up and slide.

...still waiting for the flamers to inform us about their superior braking techniques, and that they've never worn our their brake pads, and that they get 50,000 miles out of the Metzlers, Avons, and/or Bridgies.

agreed the wide rubber patch of a CT will surely be better than any MT tire but I fear it gives a false sense of security to the operator

 

[albertaduke]

Yes absolutely agree with all of that, but rain was included in the original claim & if rear braking traction could be improved it would show more in a situation where front cannot be used to its maximum effect ie rain/slippery surface, hence less weight transfer to the front allowing slightly more rear traction, not a huge amount but some.

in this specific situation I will not dispute the claim true that if you locked the front you are down in half a second the key is to avoid locking up the front nowadays with ABS it should be a nobrainer however i personally slow down a great deal when riding in the rain I believe it gives me two seconds more to brake and control the situation ,the key being not to be taken to quickly by surprise when a car swerve into your lane
in the end your best brake is still the one in your cranium

 

[HansO]

No

agreed the wide rubber patch of a CT will surely be better than any MT tire but I fear it gives a false sense of security to the operator

not at all, while towing a trailer it actually gives better stability and better braking with rear which is estential while towing to settle weight transfer entering twisty stuff especially if going down a Mtn pass, at 47,000km I am about half way thru my second set of rear pads and three quarters thru the original front pads well over 20,000km of that was towing and most of my slowing is done with engine braking before I get to the corner, then a decent jab (if not Towing) of front brakes to correct entry speed.
I have just put a Brigdestone on rear to see if it is as good as some say.... If not it will back to a CarTyre for me. Only have done 200km on it, it feel much better than the Metz ever did on the Mtn but time will tell