ART, you always refer to the Harleys as a POS, I don't agree. I ride and been riding with guys for years that have them and they work out just fine. I rode them for years, sometimes cross country and I liked them. You act like the bikes are unsafe, they aren't any unsafer than other bikes. The riders are the ones that are safe or unsafe. In my opinion the most unsafe riders as a whole are the super high horsepower light weight european and japanese bike riders. The bikes beg the riders to go fast, the brakes tell them not to worry it will stop. The riders are lured into thinking their bikes are world class handlers. The big problem is the riders aren't world class riders. The Harleys aren't a POS and either are the super bikes. All the riders aren't unsafe but if you ride a motorcycle you have a risk taker personality, if you want it to also have the highest horsepower its because you intend to use it sometimes. If you ride on the street you will use it on the street from time to time, if you crash its probably not that the bike was a POS. If you drink and ride does that make the bike a POS. Is the only bike that isn't a POS the one that stops the quickest? Is the only bike that isn't a POS the one that goes around the corners the quickest? The Harleys are far from a POS even if there are much better ones available depending on what the customer is looking for. You might have sold a lot of bikes, and ridden lots of races, but you are narrow minded and not nearly as smart as you think you are.