@1olbull I had to lower my mufflers - just for the look but also in case I wanted to use panniers. They did kick up too much from the start. Took the bike to a good welder, got him to cut the pipe on the muffler itself rear of the join with the headers and put in a straighter piece. Then he welded in a plate to the top of the mounting tab to extend the bracket. The top of the muffler runs parallel to the side cover pretty much as Bruce's and Morris' do but because of the tapered shape of my cans the inside pipe actually runs more level with the ground. Simple and cheap. Guess what I'm saying is that it's not a major exercise to reposition the muffler rather than trying to work out how you might want to change the angles on the headers.