The #1 reason why the r3t does not sell well

I just did 250 miles on my R3T today and can report the follwoing:

No vibration, though I'd love a 6th gear.

A full fairing would be "OK" but I'd like this stuff:

  • ABS
  • Cruise control/throttle assist
And I sure wish the bike was more dependable. From what I've personally experienced with my R3T in 2 short years, I can not, will not recommend it to others. No way. I enjoy RIDING my bike, not waiting for it to come out of the shop.:( Tis a pity that (several) Triumph dealers have seen my bike so much; that's just unacceptable.:mad:

Why doesn't the R3T sell better? Prospective buyers read reviews from you and me and the other Rocket riders on this site and they say...."Oh, hell, no!" On top of the mechanical issues, Triumph still refuses to step up and fix obvious flaws (ignition, etc.).

No, the bike could be great, just great, but Triumph has a ways to go first.

But, hey, that's just one guy...

no it isn't....I totally agree. Poor customer service after ther sale and a sparse dealer network are good enough reasons to run away from this bike...hopefully before you get boned like a few of us here.
 
First off six gear would be nice probably help fuel mileage a lot. I put the G.I. Pro on mine to and still look down to see if says five LOL windshield I have a long body the tall windshield was not enough, went to a local glass shop he ordered the special material I needed for the windshield we cut it 5 inches taller which put me just looking over it which was perfect but at over 110 it would shake bad so I came home got out the markers and paint tape so the glue wouldn't stick to the windshield and made a curved corners basically like the Harley have now had It to 137mph no shake and probably would not have got to that speed but a little Toyota all fixed up with wings kept messing with me just had to express myself he got the message. :cool::cool:
 
windshield I have a long body the tall windshield was not enough.

Wow, I'm 6'2" and had to cut a few inches off the R3T tall windshield in order to see over the top (hate looking through bug splattered plastic). Clearview makes shields up to 23" tall (25" if you want to wait for custom made), stock is 16". They only sell the plastic, you need to use your stock hardware.
 
While I do agree that the R3T could use a 6th gear, I think there are a host of other reason's we don't see more of them on the road, some already mentioned here...I personally really enjoy my 09 R3T, and have had no issues thus far..If the need arises for me to ride 10 hrs a day over 80 mph, for me, it's my 09 Goldwing I'll be riding, not a Harley...I enjoy the Rocket, and the Wing, as their two totally different bikes that serve different purposes...I think the R3T was labeled that because it had a standard windshield, and hard bags, but that's about it, but it was also priced accordingly....It's funny, I've been riding motorcycles for a good number of years, and I've never owned a bike that had exactly everything I wanted, and some had things I didn't want, but I've had a heck of alot of fun for a long time........Just my 2 cents........Enjoy :)
 
While I do agree that the R3T could use a 6th gear, I think there are a host of other reason's we don't see more of them on the road, some already mentioned here...I personally really enjoy my 09 R3T, and have had no issues thus far..If the need arises for me to ride 10 hrs a day over 80 mph, for me, it's my 09 Goldwing I'll be riding, not a Harley...I enjoy the Rocket, and the Wing, as their two totally different bikes that serve different purposes...I think the R3T was labeled that because it had a standard windshield, and hard bags, but that's about it, but it was also priced accordingly....It's funny, I've been riding motorcycles for a good number of years, and I've never owned a bike that had exactly everything I wanted, and some had things I didn't want, but I've had a heck of alot of fun for a long time........Just my 2 cents........Enjoy :)

I would still be on a wing if they hadn't pushed the driver up on the tank. I was always comfortable on the 1500 but have never been on the 1800.
 
I have a 2010 R3T, done 12000 miles in the first year, never had an reliability issues, but it definitely feels like there should be one more gear, if they came out with a 6 speed, I would trade/upgrade for sure. Don't miss the gizmos and full fairing at all.


I knew there was more owners than just me that felt this way! I'm also talking about the touring model here. Not the roadsters and such. If I bought a roadster I would not expect the smoothness I do from the touring model. I came close to a Wing, but then I woke up.

One must remember,,,,I came off of a 2005 five speed Road King Custom, a five speed 2005 Honda ST1300 and a six speed 2007 Street Glide. The 07 was my new Harley when I gave my wife the Road King. The 07 is a six speed. I put Andrews cams, bored to 107CI, head port work, fueler, exhaust, Etc. So I can say a few things about late model Harley's and reliability. I never had any issue with the 05 RK or the 07 Glide. With all of the engine work on my Glide I could almost keep up with my R3T on a hard second gear, 30 MPH roll on to 100MPH. Yep that's no bull!

Also, I used to ride it at 80-85 MPH all day long on road trips. So I can tell ya from first hand road experience, my Glide was a much smoother ride at those speeds. Like I said, I like my R3T, but that said, it needs a six speed transmission. Yep it does!

But, I wanted a "Big" Road King like bike that I could take the windshield off of with lot's of horse power! I liked the idea of the open front on the road vs a fixed fairing. I washed and waxed my R3 last week and rode it into town with no windshield. Took about three miles before I wanted to turn around and go get my windshield. Once you go to a windshield, your ruined.

But, what I want to do is bring out the "real" performance possibilities this bike offers. The engine is woefully under tuned for what it could be. 8:7 to 1 compression ratio???Come on. My 07 Glide was 9:7 to 1 from the factory! Air cooled no less!! Also the stock "smog" cam specs in these things is a lot like the stock 07 Street Glide cam specs. No overlap, low lift and little duration.

With the 91 octane fuel we have here the beast should be at 9:5 to 1 or better. Remember,,,,,what we are talking about here is not static, but rather dynamic compression ratio. For the street as long as you maintain around 9:5 to 1 dynamic compression ratio you are fine with 91 octane fuel. The cam specs control the Dynamic compression ratio. That's what's important.

I would like to know where Carpenter Racing sets their Dynamic compression ratio. They say 11:0 to 1 compression ratio, but how much overlap does their reground cams have? What is the dynamic compression ratio? That will speak volumes about how the bike runs on the street.

Just think how a mildly modified engine would perk the bike up. Not a radical 240 HP Carpenter racing engine, but a reasonable build for the street. I like Carpenter Racing's header. It appears one could break it just behind the collector and then using a custom tubing fabricator, have a collector pipe built to hook the header to my D&D mufflers. They are 1 3/4" baffles and should be able to handle the exhaust flow just fine. With a build like this you would have a small amount of "Overlap" sound to the exhaust at idle and a smooth idle. Fine torque build for the street.

Next year after I finish another project I'm going to seriously look at doing a build just like this on my bike. If I'm going to ride a big old brute I want all the power it can reliably put out. And sound good too!
 
First off six gear would be nice probably help fuel mileage a lot. I put the G.I. Pro on mine to and still look down to see if says five LOL windshield I have a long body the tall windshield was not enough, went to a local glass shop he ordered the special material I needed for the windshield we cut it 5 inches taller which put me just looking over it which was perfect but at over 110 it would shake bad so I came home got out the markers and paint tape so the glue wouldn't stick to the windshield and made a curved corners basically like the Harley have now had It to 137mph no shake and probably would not have got to that speed but a little Toyota all fixed up with wings kept messing with me just had to express myself he got the message. :cool::cool:

Jess any chance of a couple close up pictures of your screen, sounds like what I need I use my touring screen only on long trips but it could be a bit taller and I didn't wasn't to have it start to get unstable
 
Can someone tell me why the r3t is so detuned compared to the r3r specs? Seems like the roadster setup could be used for touring and mods wouldn't have to be done (at least for most).
 
I read somewhere it was tuned for a fat mid-range better suited to prolonged touring at the one speed. I reckon it was because the US market was so used to heavy, underpowered, touring bikes that Triumph needed to differentiate it from the power cruiser style of the Standard/Classic/Roadster and make it more like the HDs it wanted to compete with. Either way it makes no sense to me either.
 
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