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I appreciate the efforts toward self moderation, and also appreciate how hard it can be at times. As Terry pointed out, many topics raised tend to intersect with politics on some level. Many here know my feelings on some of these subjects through personal communication. And those who have been here for many years have come to understand the constraints under which we operate.

Thanks again to all for understanding, and for contributing to the site. And I hope I never see the day I when I choose to ride or drive a glorified toaster.
 
I appreciate the efforts toward self moderation, and also appreciate how hard it can be at times. As Terry pointed out, many topics raised tend to intersect with politics on some level. Many here know my feelings on some of these subjects through personal communication. And those who have been here for many years have come to understand the constraints under which we operate.

Thanks again to all for understanding, and for contributing to the site. And I hope I never see the day I when I choose to ride or drive a glorified toaster.
I tip my glass to you friend. And appreciate the warning to keep low in the trenches when needed. Now please define ...” toaster” lol. I know that if n when I become feeble enough to need to buy one of those four wheel electric buggy things to get around in, I’m going to swap out the electric engine with the 22HP Briggs n Stratton engine in my ride on lawn mower. That engine is a beast !!!
 
I tip my glass to you friend. And appreciate the warning to keep low in the trenches when needed. Now please define ...” toaster” lol. I know that if n when I become feeble enough to need to buy one of those four wheel electric buggy things to get around in, I’m going to swap out the electric engine with the 22HP Briggs n Stratton engine in my ride on lawn mower. That engine is a beast !!!
Okay lol. “ toaster” as in electric? I get it now. I’m a tad slow tonight 😏
 
I appreciate the efforts toward self moderation, and also appreciate how hard it can be at times. As Terry pointed out, many topics raised tend to intersect with politics on some level. Many here know my feelings on some of these subjects through personal communication. And those who have been here for many years have come to understand the constraints under which we operate.

Thanks again to all for understanding, and for contributing to the site. And I hope I never see the day I when I choose to ride or drive a glorified toaster.
Thinking about buying a glorified toaster, will wait another year or 2, when the used ones start coming out at half price and the bugs worked out under warranty by previous owner, i'm too lazy to deal with new stuff:);):thumbsup:
 
Thinking about buying a glorified toaster, will wait another year or 2, when the used ones start coming out at half price and the bugs worked out under warranty by previous owner, i'm too lazy to deal with new stuff:);):thumbsup:
My worry about “toasters” is that without the physical sensation, and governance of gear shifting. And the engines audible queues. The speeds electric engines create will exceed the average riders abilities. On motorcycles in particular. But that’s probably just because I’m an old codge. The youngins will probably pick up that sh@@ like Goerge Jetson .
 
Little story my friend.....I purchased my second bike in 2005. A massive 2053 cc, 800 pound black n glistening chrome beast of a bike. I’m a fairly big guy. So the two of us together were practically impossible not to notice. The problem was my stock pipes were extremely quiet. So much, so that only a month into owning it, I came up beside a car stopped at a red light. RIGHT BESIDE IT. I looked over to see two young women in it talking. They apparently either didn’t notice me, or were to busy talking to care that I was there. I looked forward to see the light turn green. We both pulled away from the intersection side by side. We stayed side by side for about 150 metres, until the driver decided she wanted to change lanes. Without even so much as a glance over to the right, or a shoulder check to the left, she just swerved into my lane. I literally had to slam on the brakes , and narrowly avoided running into a power pole on the sidewalk. The girls didn’t have a clue what just happened, and merely went along their way. They CLEARLY didn’t hear my quiet exhaust pipes. I went out the next day and “ spared no expense “ putting on a set of 3” Vans n Hines straights. Now when I ride in town, or come up to an intersection, EVERYONE knows I’m there. I’ve not had another “ quiet pipes” incident ever since. So you my friend...would be incorrect with the evaluation of loud pipes. I would be interested from which source you quoted statistics about Harley accidents in your region. I’m reasonably sure they’re also incorrect. .....Just my opinions, based on my lived experiences. 👍
Actually, the statement "Loud Pipes Saves Lives" makes bikers believe that they will be heard. Unfortunately, this is not always the case. Granted, in your scenario with a car at standstill and with you throbbing next to her, she would have possible noticed you, but a distracted driver is a distracted driver...
When I listen to music in my car on a hot day with the windows closed and the aircon on, I don't hear motorcycles, no matter how loud their pipes. I'd rather be visible than rely on exhaust noise to be noticed. Bright lights being in the right place on the road for drivers to see you is a much safer bet.
 
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