Removing rear ABS on 2012 rocket roadster.

[joey fletcher]

Hey Guys

I am not a smart person...I have never taken a M/C safety coarse.. I do not like riging in a large group I do not know.... any amount over 4 is large to me.

So there is no way in hell am I qualified to tell anyone on how to ride a motorcycle and far be it for someone to think that.

I bought my first bike at the age of 15..it was a POS harley 1947...I push it farther than I ever rode it. Not really the bikes fault...I knew nothing about motorcycles or mechanical things at that time....Heck still don't know much

I have had motorcycles ever since then..Never more than a few months at any time with owning one...I have had up to 6 M/C at one time. In 2012 I owned 3 now I am down to 2
My 2005 Rocket and my 2001 K1200 LT BMW which has ABS brakes.

I have had dirt bikes, motorcross, drag bikes and street bikes

Just telling how I ride...Nothing else

But if a Big Suburban jumps out in front of you 30 or so feet away and you are running 55 MPH...Just grab a hand full of those front ABS brakes and steer around him on a 2 lane rd.. As per Certified M/C IAM Member............Oh let me know how it works out

Just rattling your cage back....All in fun

 

[pierre]

But if a Big Suburban jumps out in front of you 30 or so feet away and you are running 55 MPH...Just grab a hand full of those front ABS brakes and steer around him on a 2 lane rd.. As per Certified M/C Instructors.............Oh let me know how it works out

Just rattling your cage back....All in fun[/QUOTE]

Been there, done that, gave him a very un-polite wave and rode on

Pal I live in Ireland the drivers round here are all trying to kill me, and yes its true I have come across a few that can't drive in a line due to too much Guiness

Had a guy in my village aske me 'What is that a 650?' he nearly fell over when I told him it was 2300

 

[albertaduke]

well interesting posts for sure , I am taking a refresher this spring got to keep the turning braking and stopping clear and ready. plus i want to do some riding over debris such as mufflers, 2x4 stovepipe etc ... in the end front brake 90% rear brake 10% and when two up rear brake 40 %

 

[Mittzy]

I reckon, do what ever it takes to walk (or ride) away from any sticky situation, we are all responsible for our actions/reactions. Ride safe

 

[1olbull]

I just can't resist this thread.
Joey - you sound like a great guy and I can tell you're not trying to be a know it all for sure.

Pierre is absolutely correct about NEVER purposely lay your motor down and NEVER tell anyone else to.

I have ridden motor sport and professionally for over 60 years and I have worked as a collision reconstruction expert for over 35 years. For all three reasons outlined in Newton's Laws, always maintain the most friction possible. A sliding motor down generates around .45g. An emergency stopping motor (depending on skill level) generates about .60g to 1g.

ABS allows the 80th percentile rider to brake as well as the best 20th percentile rider.
My R3R is my first personal ABS motor. I absolutely love it because it improves my emergency braking skill level. The KEY here is that braking is a learned skill and perishable without continued practice.
Very Best Regards,
1olbull

 

[joey fletcher]

Thanks...1olbull

For your reply....I 100% agree with you and Pierre...."never tell anyone to lay a bike down on purpose". It is not safe to do that, for sure. Oh..and not once have I ever thought about the crap they show in the movies..That is totally for the movies..... BS

Today...the Next to last thing I want to do is lay a beautifu M/C down.

..I guess I am Weird..All my life when something bad happens....Motorcross, Drag Racing or on the street...Everything goes into slow motion..I do not know why???
It takes for ever for the event to unfold..I don't think about it...it just happen

As a collision reconstruction expert for over 35 years I am sure you have seen many more M/C accidents than most. How many have you seen where a M/C hit a solid object while on 2 wheels at speed.....To many for sure

As to when I did lay my Kaw H1 down.....every thing I wrote about was all after thought..I never meant to imply that I had the time to think about laying the bike down....It was what just happened..Yes it was in slow motion..again I do not know why.. Once I hit the car....it did switch back to real time...and yes it hurt..Knocked the wind out of me..

The Last thing I want to do is hit a solid object at speed sitting up on a motorcycle.. I have seen 2 wrecks that bike was completely up right when impact happen.
One I will never forget...The Bike was mine...I had a 1983 V-65 Magna, I had it about 1 1/2 yrs and sold it to a 22 yr. old guy. There is a country store that is 2 miles from my house now. He was riding at apx 55 mph in a 55 zone. The country store had benches out front..he looked at the guys setting on the benches and waved at them.......when a woman made a left turn infront of him...He never seen what happened..And yes he did live...but if it had been me I would have Prayed too GOD to take me home...He has been 100% disabled since then...the body and brain damage was terrible.
Everytime I drive by that store I think of it...Breaks my heart...

 

[CanberraR3]

The KEY here is that braking is a learned skill and perishable without continued practice.
Very Best Regards,
1olbull

Very well put.

 

[Paul Jacobs]

Back on track.
If the ABS ring is removed or for that matter slightly bent the orange warning light on the dash will come on.
Whilst you can then replace the ABS disc or straighten it, the warning light will stay on until a reset is performed through the CPU. In my case by the local Triumph dealer.
I bent the ABS disc very slightly replacing the rear wheel after a tyre change.
Triumph Nerang in this case very helpful and no Charge.

 

[Adam79]

Question, If a car tyre is installed on the bike would the abs light come on? I have had some dramas with my 2011 r3r with electrics (rectifier and battery and so on) no I have finally got it back up and running only to find out that the ABS light is on and won't go off, only came on after a 200klm trip to run the tyre and get a feel for the bike, going off the tyre size calculator it is only 2.3% difference in size this should not cause the error.

Just wandering if anyone else that has gone the darkside has had this problem in the past, FYI my rear tyre is 225 50 16 toyo.

Thank you

Adam

 

[Boog]

Hey Guys

I am not a smart person...I have never taken a M/C safety coarse.. I do not like riging in a large group I do not know.... any amount over 4 is large to me.

So there is no way in hell am I qualified to tell anyone on how to ride a motorcycle and far be it for someone to think that.

I bought my first bike at the age of 15..it was a POS harley 1947...I push it farther than I ever rode it. Not really the bikes fault...I knew nothing about motorcycles or mechanical things at that time....Heck still don't know much

I have had motorcycles ever since then..Never more than a few months at any time with owning one...I have had up to 6 M/C at one time. In 2012 I owned 3 now I am down to 2
My 2005 Rocket and my 2001 K1200 LT BMW which has ABS brakes.

I have had dirt bikes, motorcross, drag bikes and street bikes

Just telling how I ride...Nothing else

But if a Big Suburban jumps out in front of you 30 or so feet away and you are running 55 MPH...Just grab a hand full of those front ABS brakes and steer around him on a 2 lane rd.. As per Certified M/C IAM Member............Oh let me know how it works out

Just rattling your cage back....All in fun

Hello Joey, I know this is a late chime in, but since the thread is alive again, I did give the ABS a try at 85 mph on I-95 a few weeks ago when a car ahead of changed lanes too soon and hit the front of the car directly ahead of me causing both to spin out of control. I had just joined the freeway and was in the right lane of three trying to clear the herd when it happened and had no lateral escape. I grabbed both brakes hard, ABS kicked in on each, and was able to maneuver to the shoulder before impacting them or anything else. I am very impressed with the ABS after that little heart racer…