K&N Filter Options
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Power-Tripp
Turbocharged
BRYON540,
Anytime are going into building the engine internally, you should be aware that other systems need to be looked at as well, exhaust, intake, fuel, clutch, etc.
CR is not really in the business of building custom exhaust systems. None of their other kits come with them. As for pricing, that is another issue. But you might have some luck talking with Bob and Art.
Anytime are going into building the engine internally, you should be aware that other systems need to be looked at as well, exhaust, intake, fuel, clutch, etc.
CR is not really in the business of building custom exhaust systems. None of their other kits come with them. As for pricing, that is another issue. But you might have some luck talking with Bob and Art.
borntoride63
Supercharged
thanks PT, seems I need something in between what I have now and the Carpenter package! maybe 10: 1 pistons mild porting, just a little more duration and lift! and 3 into 1 pipe, new filters! I have bad memories of the H.D. engine zippers built for me! came apart second year! after warranty! only 3500 miles! valve spring came apart and dropped the valve trashing entire rear cylinder! my problem is Im on the throttle most of the time! so life expectancy is very important! not a high roller! just a workin guy!
As we have seen, even R3s with full exhaust systems can benefit from increased air filter flow than the RU-2780s provide. With a modified engine, you will benefit from even more flow.
I am a Carpenter Racing dealer and have seen their quality of work on Hayabusas and GSXR1000 engines before they started with the R3. If they did not offer quality kits, parts, and work, I wouldn't deal with them.
I have a few customers with Carpenter kits on sportbikes used for grudge drag racing. These engines are regularly run hard and put away wet, season after season. Some are running as much as 150 hp of nitrous with pusher systems on top of the bored/stroked engines, and are still running strong.
If you are going to do the Carpenter package, do the pipe as well . With the intake cam having different intake valve closing points than stock, this will dictate different intake and exhaust lengths and diameters than stock cams - as will more compression and higher VE (volumetric efficiency). Your Jardine header and exhaust system is limited in what it will do on a modified engine.
The stock rods are very nicely built - they have regularly turned 8800+ rpm without issue. And we are working on getting improved aftermarket rod bolts. You could even consider shotpeening and balancing the rotating assembly for more safety and smoothness.
The R3 block is STRONG. Lots of webbing and support.
The Carpenter kits use very good quality pistons, rings, and pins. The valve springs and Ti retainers are able to last a long time. Their cams are re-grinds using a smaller base circle, ground and treated by a very good company, so no issue there.
So the only issue is increased wear from running higher rpm occassionally. At stock rpm points the torque is actually improved substantially, so you can putt around town, and still have more output than you do now at common engine speeds and loads. Then let it lose on the open roads, or stoplight to stoplight and watch the sportbike riders expressions.
Feed it good oil and filters at regular intervals, and the engine should last a long time.
Talk to Art and Bob at Carpenter Racing. They can answer your questions in detail. Just do so earlier in the week if you want to spend time on the phone with them - early in the day is best. They are busy this time of year.
tdragger
Living Legend
Welcome Adam to the site. You'll find tons of useful info here.
Unfortunately, I'm not qualified to answer this one but my guess is the first answer will be, "It depends."
I'm not a hot-rodder but I was looking to smooth out some of the low speed jerkiness so I've added the triples and opened the secondaries to 100% across the board. This achieved what I was looking for. I'm not sure if I really need to do anything with the tune now but eventually I'll be heading down to Power-Tripp's so that he can work his magic.
If your interested, check out the TuneECU forum for a free competitor to Tuneboy.
Unfortunately, I'm not qualified to answer this one but my guess is the first answer will be, "It depends."
I'm not a hot-rodder but I was looking to smooth out some of the low speed jerkiness so I've added the triples and opened the secondaries to 100% across the board. This achieved what I was looking for. I'm not sure if I really need to do anything with the tune now but eventually I'll be heading down to Power-Tripp's so that he can work his magic.
If your interested, check out the TuneECU forum for a free competitor to Tuneboy.
Sidecar Flip
Living Legend
In a nutshell, no. Freeing up the intake will lean the A/F ratio too much and Triumph has no canned tunes that will work to any degree. Besides, freeing up the intake will necessitate an exhaust change as well. You can't put it in without expelling it.
Sidecar Flip
Living Legend
While I'm on this thread, later this year I'm going to come out with brushed (or machined) 6016 aluminum tops for the 2780's so you can run witout the claw if you want to.
I'm working out the designs right now........
I'll probably post a poll as to what everyone wants on the tops. Because there will be 3, I was thinking 'E' 'F' 'I' individually or whatever. I need some input on that end.
They will single stud mount to the top of the filter and secure with an insert fastener underneath. One small hole in the top of the filter will do it.
I'm working out the designs right now........
I'll probably post a poll as to what everyone wants on the tops. Because there will be 3, I was thinking 'E' 'F' 'I' individually or whatever. I need some input on that end.
They will single stud mount to the top of the filter and secure with an insert fastener underneath. One small hole in the top of the filter will do it.
HellFire
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I suppose using "trademarked" logo's is out of the question? I'd be happy with the triumph triangle just like on the right side of the block.
Problem is, I would still want to run the prefilter covers and the caps might be a bit difficult to attach
I'd probably scrap the prefilters just to have the tops.
Problem is, I would still want to run the prefilter covers and the caps might be a bit difficult to attach
I'd probably scrap the prefilters just to have the tops.
Sidecar Flip
Living Legend
I suppose using "trademarked" logo's is out of the question? I'd be happy with the triumph triangle just like on the right side of the block.
Problem is, I would still want to run the prefilter covers and the caps might be a bit difficult to attach
I'd probably scrap the prefilters just to have the tops.
Don't know. I'll have to ask my mouthpiece about that. The pre-filters should work under the top. A very small hole to accomodate the stud that will be in the bottom of the top. The tops will have a milled ring on the underside that locates on the filter top to keep it aligned.
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