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[TOMCAT]

Unless you are a vry heavy man those pressures seem a bit high I am 109 kg and run mine at 28psi but in saying that every tyre will be different my last one was better a little higher, just slowly bring you your corner speeds up if you start to find the bike start to wallow on big sweepers then you have gone down to far in pressure just keep expreimenting and before you know it you will be scraping at speed !!

Followed him out to the Royal Mail Pub a couple of Saturdays ago. To be honest it looked f#ckin frightening watching him corner. Jetman reckons it's fine but man it looks scary the way that squareish (perhaps overinflated) tyre handles corners... Not for me ,thats for sure !!!

 

[Jetman]

Ct

Thanks tomcat, I recently had the chance to try it in the wet, well not bad at all-......pressure to 26 and the ride is very sweet....I must say at no time do I feel unsafe at all and I ride it very hard at times... If at any point I feel it is dangerous, well I'll change back, it is a trial at the mo and I'm keeping an open mind. At this stage I'm keeping it ! , I did get stuck into it a bit on the bends at about 60 and wow it really hung on .
I will say though give it a go before you shelve it and approach it with an open mind....I'm very happy with it
Cheers

 

[Dennsell]

Followed him out to the Royal Mail Pub a couple of Saturdays ago. To be honest it looked f#ckin frightening watching him corner. Jetman reckons it's fine but man it looks scary the way that squareish (perhaps overinflated) tyre handles corners... Not for me ,thats for sure !!!

Im with you Tomcat, being a mechanic I just can't get my head around the theory of a square relatively stiff wall tyre having the correct footprint on the road surface during speed cornering, staight line no problem but cornering even with tyre wall flex you are literally on the edge... not to mention the void insurance when you need it... it just aint right somehow

 

[HansO]

Im with you Tomcat, being a mechanic I just can't get my head around the theory of a square relatively stiff wall tyre having the correct footprint on the road surface during speed cornering, staight line no problem but cornering even with tyre wall flex you are literally on the edge... not to mention the void insurance when you need it... it just aint right somehow

Actually the tyres we are using are the top end sports car tyres which actually do flex and with the correct pressure in it I'll put it up against a Metzler any day It will hang on when the metz is struggling and starting to slide. With the correct presure in it even when it appears to be a lot in the air it actually is giving you a bigger footprint than a bike tyre... as Jet man said don't write them of till you try one, also my insurance company does not have a problem with it as long as it is not the cause of the accident and a guy I know who has crashed his Rocket twice and is with the same insurance company has had his claims paid both times Oh and yes you do lose a little bit of HP but at least you can use it, I do ride hard and it is not uncommon to have the front starting to lift before I come back up straight in the twisties with the metz I used to get wild slides.. I know which I prefer

 

[CanberraR3]

I've ridden behind Hanso (and other darksiders) a few times and I must say it does look wierd but there's no doubting that it hangs on. I won't do it but I can see that it seems to work.

 

[Dennsell]

Actually the tyres we are using are the top end sports car tyres which actually do flex and with the correct pressure in it I'll put it up against a Metzler any day It will hang on when the metz is struggling and starting to slide. With the correct presure in it even when it appears to be a lot in the air it actually is giving you a bigger footprint than a bike tyre... as Jet man said don't write them of till you try one, also my insurance company does not have a problem with it as long as it is not the cause of the accident and a guy I know who has crashed his Rocket twice and is with the same insurance company has had his claims paid both times Oh and yes you do lose a little bit of HP but at least you can use it, I do ride hard and it is not uncommon to have the front starting to lift before I come back up straight in the twisties with the metz I used to get wild slides.. I know which I prefer

Hans. interesting and I am sure you are being truthful but I still don't feel comfortable with the idea personally, which Insurance Co accepts the mod ? I heard that they were strict, didn't want to insure this type of unconvention mod..some design safety regulation thing I think..

 

[Jetman]

CT

WELL GUYS ...THANKS FOR THE COMMENTS, BUT LETS JUST STICK TO THE FACTS HEY!......IVE DONE 1800KS ON THIS TYRE AND ON MY LAST RUN GAVE IT ALL I COULD IN SOME OF MY FAV TWISTIES...AND WOW ! THERES NO WAY THAT THE METZ COULD KEEP UP OR COME CLOSE......THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT HANSO.
I DONT CARE IF YOUR A MECHANIC OR A TYRE SPECIALIST ...(and im typing this slow cause i know you carnt read fast) ....LOL ITS ALL ABOUT WHERE THE RUBBER HITS THE ROAD.
AS I SAID AT THE START IT WAS A TRIAL....I HAD A COMPLETE OPEN MIND AND IM JUDGED ONLY BY THE PERFORMANCE NOT THE PRICE....BUT THINK ABOUT THE THE REAL WINNERS HERE (THE BIKE TYRE SALESMAN) THEY HAVE BEEN DOING A NUMBER ON ALL OF US FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
I PAID $180 FOR THE TYRE. FOR THE SAME K'S THE BIKE TYRE WOULD COST $2500(FACT)...........

 

[HansO]

Glad you like it Jetman.

Not long after I got my Rocket I met Ruzzel who had a Darkside tyre and boldly claimed that I could not lose him with my Metz well it was the first ride together and I took him along a route that was mildly twisty (didn't want to be the cause of him crashing on the Mtn) anyway when we got to the interesting part I started to push the envelope a little to the point where the Metz was starting to show signs of it limits (I'll give the metz credit for giving little warnings) any way he stuck with me after we had a coffee and lunch we rode home again the same result. The interesting point here is there were two other Rockets there also the rider's of which commented at the pace we had set being a little fast hence they had dropped of the back of us in the Mild Twisties now the interesting part is that one of the guys I know well from my sports bike days doesn't mind going fast in twisties and was running a Avon Cobra, when I got home there were signs of the limits of the tyre were being passed by the fact that there were pebble marks on the sidewall, before someone suggests under inflated tyre I check and maintain my tyre pressures religiously.
Since then I am on my second Darkside and when we get to the Twisties I know I am going a lot faster then I ever did on the Metz!!!!

 

[xhdskip]

Hans and Jet,
Both confirmed darksiders huh?
I know I like mine a lot more than that S**tty metz.
I trust this tire where the metz would try to wash out this one hangs,
I'll never go back myself...
I'm off work right now for my "weekend", it's still dark outside,
but at dawns early light, I'm outta here....
almost 40 right now and suppose to be warm all week.
Not bad for December....

 

[STRIPES]

I've been Darkside since 2008 and on my third. When people say "look at how much tire is in the air." I reply....Look at how much tire is still on the ground!....a lot more than a round MC tire!" I especially like DS for the additional braking traction. For me, the small hp loss is worth the extra traction when launching and stopping. If I were worried about high speed (I don't like going fast...I just like getting to real fast, fast.) I wouldn't run a CT either. But, launching and eating ****** rockets up to 80-90 is funnnn.

However, I was just thinking....I am going to need to be more careful now that I have lost so much weight. She hooks up a lot easier and I'm going to have to learn to keep the front wheel down. I see a new learning curve.