I'm dreaming of an 8 gallon tank...

I guess am a odd ball. When out on the road I do not mind at all stopping for gas. Nine times out of ten end up talking to other customers and such. Sometimes fellow motorcycles, sometimes the guy in the van with a fat wife and four screaming rug rats. Had a guy look at me one time in that situation and asked if i would like to trade positions. Got a good laugh out of it. I never get in such a hurry that I can not enjoy life and for me stopping for gas is not that big of a deal sometimes it can turn into a good experience by meeting and talking to people. After about 150 miles am more than ready to stretch my legs a bit any how. ;););););)


Oddball.............. :cautious: :unsure: :roll: :p :whitstling:
 
Nine times out of ten end up talking to other customers and such............ sometimes it can turn into a good experience by meeting and talking to people.
What!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - that´s just plain odd. I have been informed those are the first symptoms of wanting a huge RV.
 
I guess am a odd ball. When out on the road I do not mind at all stopping for gas. Nine times out of ten end up talking to other customers and such. Sometimes fellow motorcycles, sometimes the guy in the van with a fat wife and four screaming rug rats. Had a guy look at me one time in that situation and asked if i would like to trade positions. Got a good laugh out of it. I never get in such a hurry that I can not enjoy life and for me stopping for gas is not that big of a deal sometimes it can turn into a good experience by meeting and talking to people. After about 150 miles am more than ready to stretch my legs a bit any how. ;););););)
YEP thats me I like to stop and eat and drink hit the bathroom why torture yourself seek pleasure and avoid pain hmmmm how bout some ice cream
 
Note I said BEFORE RESERVE.

But - see that thing on the right side of the handlebars - Here we call it a throttle - I use it. My R3 is configured as a big distance tourer (large screen, big cases) - As aerodynamic as a house. But I ride it as I ride all my bikes - like a sports tourer. I could not give a rats arse about 0-60 times - The bugger has to do long distance fast without effort (from me).

At a constant (and I mean for HOURS on end constant) 130-140kmh (ok with some blips up to 150) (GPS) I can just achieve 7.5l/100kms ( 31.36mpg US ). From a 23,5L tank this is just over 200 miles (322kms) but with little or no reserve. And like the Texans we don't have 24*7 fuel stops every 10miles.

OK a carpenter engine may do better (I don´t know)- but can Bob give me a guaranty it will pass homologation and emissions in the EU? - Well no! - so it´s bugger all use here.

Ref : Neander - it´s a huge white elephant. There have been other diesel bikes but like the Neander have missed the point. Distance riders will not be riding "custom" style bikes. They´l want luggage for 2 and lots of it. The Dutch Track800 was a good attempt but was again a bit misguided. Offer something like a Diesel Wing and I´m sure it do better. The Neander is really just a showpiece bike for a group of otherwise bored engineers. Price? - Think Bentley.

Yes there are other Diesel bikes But the Neander is the first production Turbo diesel, and the first one that has a reasonable performance, I could shoehorn an old Lister diesel into a wing chassis but it would not be a pleasant Tourer:):):)
 
I ride ~105mi, round trip, to/from work. I fill up every evening with about 30ish miles left on the range readout.

I ride 85ish mph on 60-70mph roads and blip the sh!t out of the throttle. I bought a bike to ride and have fun on. Stopping at gas stations and talking to people there is not something I would consider fun... i want to ride. I don't need to eat every couple hours and i'm not incontinent, so no need to have a wee every couple hours either.
 
Do not get me wrong I ride a bit myself, Henryetta Oklahoma to Tulsa Oklahoma daily. A little bit over 117 miles a day. No we do not park the bike in Nov. and wait for March. We ride all year. I like my clean driving record so normal cruise speed for me is around 70 to 75 mph. 85ish at a consent speed would result in a lot of unwanted attention here in Oklahoma. Living in a small town for the last 15 years you learn how to enjoy life vice the big city hassles that some have to contend with. Which in turn results in a little different perspective of life in general. :cool::cool::cool::cool:
 
Yes there are other Diesel bikes But the Neander is the first production Turbo diesel, and the first one that has a reasonable performance, I could shoehorn an old Lister diesel into a wing chassis but it would not be a pleasant Tourer:):):)
There is a guy in the UK that put the SMART 800cc diesel into Triumph Tigers. The Dutch Track800 also used the SMART. And from all accounts very usable bikes.
I know of Dutch folk who've fitted Peugeot TDI's into Tonti-Guzzi chassis - and they're very usable. The PSA diesels are tidy and reliable too. New 1600TDI's put out 130bhp with no issue.

The Neander has been "in production" for ages - but ask them how many they have sold. The German tax system favours loss making enterprises for professionals in a related field.
It's a showcase for their engine. I did it too when I lived there. Everybody who can, does.

An R3 could be made diesel "fairly" easily. A direct injection diesel will fire at about 16:1 - There are 16:1 R3 conversions. And Turbo/supercharger kits. If I thought I could get it past the homologations things here - I'd be tempted. But welcome to the "More Catholic than the Pope" bureaucracy of Spain.

I'm not against "stop and see" runs - but then I'd not be on highways and frankly then I'd take my 1979 Guzzi. It handles tight bendy narrow roads better - shorter wheelbase.

One thing that MIGHT be doable here is a "Liquid Petroleum Gas" conversion. I know very little about the process but fuel economy and emissions improve and fuel is WAAAAAY cheaper. LPG is still rare-ish here - but common in most of Europe (including UK).
 
I'm sure, ( without doing any research ), that we Triumph Rocket owners come in all shapes, sizes, and in varied states of medical health. Some of us may need to, ( call it "want to" ), hop off the bike every 150 miles. While others are hoping for a 600 mile day. Either way, it's okay. We're all members of the same club, and we need to remember each other's special circumstances. There are times, when I take leisurely rides, and I don't care much about logging miles. But, there are other times, when my priority is to travel 600 miles per day, or even more, ( if I could ). We all have our limits, though, and you reach a point, when you just can't go any farther. You need a break. Not for gas. For yourself. I don't mind being the "weak link in the chain". I can challenge myself to perform better. My gripe is when the bike forces me to hop off of it every 150 miles. When I was younger, I could've easily sat on a bike for three hours at a clip, ( like a long distance drive in a car ). No problem. I'd like to think, I could still sit on a bike that long today, ( if I had a bike that would allow it ). No. Don't even think about it. I'll never part with my Rocket.
 
If it were me....
I'd extend the bottom of the tank. Thru the frame and where the airbox is. Just use a ramair intake. No one would even notice, and all welds would be hidden. Just have to mod the intake straw and ignore the fuel light...
 
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