I said I would never do it, but...........

Give it up. When you accept there are those who alway think they are more intelligent, you also must accept you can never change their mind. It really makes no difference untill they start denegrating. These two enjoy irritating. To each their own.

You talking to me?
 
@1olbull is that a 140 on the front or a 150? by the looks of the fender clearance I would guess a 140?

Good eye, Warpo! Tis indeed a 140.
The new Michelin I left WA with wore out after 4400mi in Missouri.
I wound up with a Dunlop which performed fine.
 
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Whats the bead depth on a CT vs a MT ....or the flange width? It may look good but MT wheels are completely designed different than CTs....As well as the bead radius diff between the two. No worries....Magic prevails over physics and engineering diffs between MT and CTs.

ah $hit, here we go again with the bead crap again. :sleep:
 
Give it up. When you accept there are those who alway think they are more intelligent, you also must accept you can never change their mind. It really makes no difference untill they start denegrating. These two enjoy irritating. To each their own.

Hey, pal, I'm not trying to change your mind as that ship sailed from the get go. What I will continue to do is to provide bona fide facts (not opinions or anecdotal "evidence") for any person that inquires about the differences between running CTs vs MTs on this or any other bike. You and some of your fellow "darkside" acolytes are very cavalier at dispensing incorrect and potentially dangerous information to any or all who will swallow said information whole, as if it's the gospel or to the extent of representing car tires on motorcycles as being bulletproof from a safety standpoint, which they absolutely are not.

Frankly, such ill-founded advice could get this board sued someday on the grounds of contributing to a rider's, passenger's or other accident victim's death or dire injury due to catastrophic tire separation, something that is a distinct possibility when you mismatch tires and/or rims that are designed or intended for cars only or motorcycles only due to totally different wheel or tire bead designs. Should that ever happen, trust me, there's a very high probability that this site would cease to exist and some of the individuals here who have posted up erroneous information could find their butts in a sling, too, as contingently liable defendants.

Every single respected expert in all related fields to tire design, engineering and safety attest to the singular point that car tires are not safe to run on motorcycle wheels an, further, that they will significantly impair reaction times in emergency situations and that they will dramatically diminish the overall handling and manuevering of any motorcycle. Can people ride motorcycles on car tires? Sure they can and do. Does that invalidate the facts or point to all true experts on the subject being involved in a conspiracy theory to keep motorcyclists from riding on motorcycle tires? Well, that question is unworthy of a serious answer.

I'm confident that if you look back at my postings on this subject extending back for years, I consistently have acknowledged that this is each individual's choice to make and I really do not care and the end of the day what you or anyone else chooses to put on their motorcycle. I do care that people have sound information on all sides of a topic that they are curious about, especially on a topic that intrinsically involves motorcyle safety, so that they can make informed and, hopefully intelligent decisions for themselves. There's nothing I can do to prevent anyone from making their choice independently - whether it's good, bad or indifferent. So stick a sock in it or abide in other's sound opinions and/or facts, because they will not cease to be presented.

Ride on!
 
Over the past few years I've read enough Darkside threads, pro's and con's to drive myself crazy. So I said to heck with it and I am just going to try it for myself, if it sucks I'll just take it off. Being in Canada tires are expensive and not always available, not to mention I am 200km from the nearest bike shop. I went with the Yokohama S-Drive 225/55r16 which cost me $180 with taxes and installation onto the rim. Right now the Cobra would cost me $400 with freight and taxes, installation would be extra. My last Cobra lasted 15,000km, without having any experience I am hoping to get 30,000km out of the Yoko. So the math is pretty easy, the Darkside is less than 25% the expense to run the same distance. Other than the obvious shape of the tire the 2 tires match up not too bad.

Cobra $400 Yoko $180
Speed V Speed W
Actual width 9.3" for both
Diameter 25.6" 25.7"
Load 500kg 690kg

Because of where I live, there aren't any curves in the road. When I leave town the first curve in the road isn't for 25km, and it's an easy one. My Cobra was worn bald in the center section and less than 1mm was gone from the edges. Even the logo looked like new on the outer edge. I hit the corners on vacation or trips but in the grand scheme of things I just don't wear the outer edges. So with the Darkside I can't see why my tire life shouldn't significantly increase. With that being said my time spent on the edge of a Darkside tire should be minimal, so I shouldn't really wear out the edge where there isn't any tread. Hopefully the handling quirks are minimal. We will see......

Yokohama S-Drive 2.jpg Yokohama S-Drive.jpg Avon 15,000km.jpg
You will survive mate , i took on a 6000klm round trip 2 weeks after i had my darkside 1st put on, i was still learning the different way the bike handled , i was exposed to all types of weather conditions on that ride and never once had a close call i could attribute to the fact i had a car tire on ( it's still there and looks new after nearly 30000 klm ), my only suggestion is dont expect it to corner as with a bike tire on the back , dont push your limits , ride to the limits that the Ds allows safely.
 
Good eye, Warpo! Tis indeed a 140.
The new Michelin I left WA with wore out after 4400mi in Missouri.
I wound up with a Dunlop which performed fine.
Maybe you should go back to the 150 so the front end is a wee bit higher. Then you won't grind thru your engine case :D
 
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