First ride my Carpenter Rocket

I dont think I am going to be using the K&N RX-4040-1 filters. I fit them today and the riding position where your left leg would have to be isnt that comfy. Fact is its worse then as if you were sitting on a horse (at least your left leg) I may return them and just go with the smaller filters that fit under the claw.
 
I have an extra bearclaw, I'm trying to come up with a semi-ram air design, thinking of using a discarded muffler, maybe. Cooler air and maybe pressurize the filter area a bit. The R3Ts have a different tank shape, 2780s are the only option I've found.
 
Ram air net benefits really only kicks in above triple digits...so much testing was done with the busa over the years and now the 14r to prove this..

and yes cold air is better then hot and better then warm for making power but the dyno shows the results.

here is one of the most comprehensive test/testing done on a variety of bikes
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The sales pitch has been long and heavy: "incredible volumetric efficiency"; "large volumes of high-pressure air...significant boost in high-rpm horsepower"; "force-fed, pressurized air results in...major increases in horsepower and torque." Ram air is one of the most highly touted advances made for sportbikes in recent years, yet its benefits are rarely objectively stated, or scientifically evaluated. First appearing on Kawasaki's ZX-11 model in 1992, ram-air induction has now become de rigueur; virtually all sportbikes these days come equipped with gaping air intakes on their fairings, along with the proclamations stated above.

Theory


The basic concept behind ram air is that a moving bike will stuff air into its forward-facing intake runners, resulting in a free supercharging effect. As speed increases more air is forced in, resulting in more power and, in turn, more speed. The faster you go, the faster you'll go. The first impression upon viewing the gaping maws of some ram-air-equipped bikes is that an enormous amount of pressure must be built up at high speeds, but this is not so. As air is jammed into the opening, the high-pressure area that is created builds outward, effectively stopping more air from entering. Picture a balloon being inflated with an air tank. If the balloon is sealed to the nozzle, it will expand easily. Hold it slightly away from the nozzle, however, and the balloon will only inflate so far.

The pressure build-up can be defined using the Pitot-static tube theory:


P = .5 x r x v2

Pressure (P) is force divided by an area. In the English system of measurement the units of pressure are (lb - force)/in2 which translates to psi. Density (r) is mass divided by volume. The units of density in the English system are (lb - mass)/in3. Velocity (v) is air speed, with units ft/sec. Plotting pressure vs. speed gives a graph that has theoretical pressure rising with the square of speed, and this is why ram air has much more effect at greater speeds. For a speed of 150 mph, the resulting maximum theoretical pressure would be about 27mb (approximately .4 psi). Millibar (mb) is a metric unit for pressure. We used millibar instead of psi to give more workable numbers.


Of course, this air has to find its way to the carb mouths, and there is some loss due to the inefficiency of intake runners and the airbox itself. Without going into a lot of theory, suffice it to say that efficiency depends on the relative areas of the fairing intake, airbox intake and the airbox itself; even with a good system the loss can be as much as 70 percent. There is also the niggling problem of the engine gulping air from the system. This will lower the efficiency further, especially at higher speeds.

The test: Part One

So how much horsepower is ram-air induction really worth? Astute SR readers will recall Jon Doran's ram air/dyno test (Link Removed") in the August '95 issue. While the article was well done, we decided to take the concept a step further. We took one of Pi Research's advanced, System 3 data-acquisition systems and hooked up one of its air-pressure sensors into the airbox of eight different modern sportbikes. We also mounted a wheel-speed sensor which allowed us to precisely measure and compare roadspeed with airbox pressure. Absconding with all the motorcycles to our top-secret, high-desert test site, we then proceeded to wring the piss out of each machine and gather data from each of the top-speed runs.

The results will-as Doran stated in his test four years ago-surprise you. All ram-air induction systems are obviously not created equal. In the following graphs, the upper line denotes wheel speed and the lower line represents airbox pressure.

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Note: In the next issue of Sport Rider, we will complete the second part of this test by pressurizing the airboxes on each of the bikes to the amount measured by the Pi System-while running on the dyno-to find out just how much power ram air is really worth. See Link Removed.

ybe. Cooler air and maybe pressurize the filter area a bit. The R3Ts have a different tank shape, 2780s are the only option I've found.[/QUOTE]
 
It's crunchtime, ladies and gentlemen. After gathering hard information on the exact amount of airbox pressure present at speed in various ram-air-equipped sportbikes, via Pi Research's System 3 data-acquisition system, the time has come to strap these bikes to the dyno and see how much additional power is really available. This is where Sport Rider finally answers the question of whether all this ram-air Link Removed hype is a measurable performance increase or nothing more than advertising smoke and mirrors.

We took the Link Removed air data, seven current sportbikes and the Pi data-acquisition system to Two Brothers Racing in Santa Ana, California (www.twobros.com), where proprietor Craig Erion would run the bikes on his Factory EC997a Eddy Current dyno. The Eddy Current dyno was chosen because of its ability to hold a steady rpm; this made it a lot easier to set the correct airbox pressure, compared with the common Dynojet dynos that can only make a complete run through the rpm range. With the Pi System 3, measuring the airbox pressure at speed for the first segment of our ram air test was a simple task. And its sophisticated software permits the user to view the pressure data in real time using a laptop computer. This gave us the chance to set the pressure on the dyno to the same parameters derived from the previous top-speed test.

Our biggest obstacle to completing this experiment was figuring out a way to force enough air into each of the airboxes to simulate the pressure encountered at speed while running on a dynamometer. There is an incredible amount of wind energy at 150 mph. If you've ever popped up out of the bubble while braking for Turn One at Daytona, or even stuck your hand out of a car's window while traveling faster than 130 mph, you know what we mean. We required more than a fan setup that ran up huge cfm (cubic feet per minute) numbers. It would need to supply that volume at pressures above ambient, requiring a large, high-horsepower fan and the necessary ducting-not something readily obtained without spending huge amounts of money, nor easily built and mounted in the limited space and time we had available. Several fan options were tried but none could provide the amount of pressure we needed.

The setup we finally used may seem a bit unorthodox but it definitely gave us the necessary amount of wind energy and pressure. A pair of huge 185 cfm portable air compressors normally used with jackhammers were employed, and the requisite three-quarter-inch hoses directed the airflow. For the smaller bikes, we only needed to direct one compressor hose at a distance from the ram-air inlet to get the necessary pressure. The larger bikes, however, required us to use both hoses and, in some cases, seal up one side of the ram-air inlet while force-feeding the other.It should be noted that Eddy Current dynos typically give horsepower readings 15-20 percent lower than the more common Dynojet dyno readings. We started each run at 7000 rpm (both with and without ram-air assist), since we figured all of our top-speed data was gathered using full throttle and anything less than 7000 rpm in top gear would offer inconsequential ram-air pressure/data. Also, although many will argue that using air compressors brings up the issues of heat (compressing air raises its temperature) and moisture (compressing air also condenses the moisture in that portion of air), these graphs are basically relative in nature and the increase in air temperature and the amount of moisture condensation present were negligible.

Unfortunately, two bikes that were present during the top-speed data sessions had to be returned before we could begin the dyno sessions. Both the Kawasaki ZX-7R and ZX-9R are missing from these tests. However, we did manage to procure a Honda CBR600F4 and Kawasaki ZX-6R to take their places.

On each of the dyno graphs, the bold lines represent ram-air-assisted readings-solid for horsepower, dotted lines for Link Removed. As we stated in "Ram Air Test: Part One" in our October issue, the results will definitely surprise you.

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YAMAHA YZF-R6: Here is obvious proof that ram air works on smaller-displacement engines. Ram air helps the R6 hold its peak Link Removed higher and longer (12,000-14,000 rpm), and the torque curve is higher and flatter as well. This isn't just an incremental increase on top, either. We're talking about an average difference of five horsepower through the midrange and a far more usable power spread. The ram-air assisted reading would probably be higher at 13,000 rpm, but we were unable to generate the required airbox pressure on that particular run at that point. To give a relative reference, without ram air the Yamaha registered -11mb. Again, remember the lower peak-horsepower reading of 84.4 is due to the Eddy Current dyno.

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SUZUKI TL1000R: It was difficult to determine what the average peak pressure was in the Suzuki TL-R's airbox (check out its graph in "Ram Air: Part One," October '99), so we decided to stick with 12mb. Although we were skeptical at first, it's fairly apparent ram air works on V-twins, too. The horsepower and torque curves are well above their non-ram-air counterparts, with a seven horsepower bump at 10,000 rpm. It should be noted that the sealing on the Suzuki ram-air components (specifically where the ducts route into the airbox) is less than satisfactory. We encountered substantial leakage and estimate that peak pressure might be higher if the connection points had a more effective seal. The non-ram-aired TL-R registered -19mb for relative comparison purposes.




SUZUKI GSX-R750: The GSX-R750 is another case where ram air helps the engine hold its peak power higher and longer. The dip at 10,000 rpm on the ram-air graph is the result of a pressure glitch. We had a problem getting the correct mb setting at that rpm, in addition to a persistent exhaust-gasket leak. Note the power peak builds earlier and carries much farther compared with the non-ram-air graph. The GSX-R also suffered from leakage around the airbox/ram-air ducts. Again, overall peak pressure could be higher if the componentry had a better seal. Without ram air, the GSX-R drained the airbox to the tune of -11mb.



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HONDA CBR600F4: You'll note that besides the dip in the ram-air-assisted chart at 10,000 rpm, the Honda F4's graph also registers below the non-ram-air graph at 7000 rpm. This was due to the difficulty in getting the engine to run cleanly at that rpm. The float-bowl vents (which pressurize the float bowls so fuel continues to run through the jets when the airbox is above ambient pressure) are positioned just abreast of the ram-air inlets, initially making it difficult to aim the compressed airstream to obtain the same pressure for both the airbox and float bowls. Check out the peak power curve, though; where the non-ram-air F4 is signing off, the ram-air F4 continues to build right up to the rev limiter.



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HONDA CBR1100XX: Well what would you rather have-115 horsepower or 122 horsepower? The CBR-XX obviously reacts well to ram-air induction. The horsepower and torque curves literally mimic the non-ram-air graphs, only with a five to seven horsepower increase and three to five additional foot-pounds of torque. It should be noted the Honda XX's ram-air system is one of the most Link Removed on the market, showing immediate power gains well before the 7000-rpm starting mark and posting high-pressure readings during our top-speed test. For comparative purposes, the CBR-XX's pressure reading without ram-air assist at full-throttle/top rpm was -8mb.

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SUZUKI GSX1300R HAYABUSA:Even though the Hayabusa posted median pressure numbers during our top-speed test and didn't build pressure beyond ambient until 145 mph, it's apparent that any internal-combustion motor benefits from ram-air induction. The reason the power curve is tailing off a bit around 9500 rpm is because the Suzuki's mondo engine was basically beginning to require more air than we could feed it at that point. It was the only motorcycle we ram-air-dynoed that left both compressors gasping for breath. And again, the Hayabusa suffered from leakage around the airbox/ram-air duct junctions, which possibly prevented it from posting higher numbers.

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KAWASAKI ZX-6R:After witnessing the high-pressure readings garnered by both Kawasakis during our top-speed tests in the first session, we were anxious to see what another ZX-R could do on the dyno. Unfortunately, we ran into a problem. As the revs started to climb beyond 10,000 rpm, we couldn't get the Kawasaki to run cleanly. It was obvious the float-bowl vents weren't getting the same airstream pressure as the airbox during our dyno runs. Without ram air, the ZX-6R ran perfectly and posted excellent power numbers. No matter what we tried, we couldn't get our simulated pressurization to work with the Kawasaki's ram-air system properly. It was frustrating. If we would have had more time to fabricate ducting that enshrouded the ram-air inlets, we're confident our ram-air simulation would've worked. Still, the ZX-6R shows the initial signs of definite power gains up to 10,000 rpm. And judging by the excellent graphs drawn from our top-speed tests of the 7R and 9R, it's a sure bet the ZX-6R would have set the pace as far as showcasing the benefits of ram-air induction.

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Well as a biker you must get used to taking in everything before deciding which way to go. Just stop and smell the Roses :D
Well as biker I dont miss nothing allways scanning:D:cool:
strangely, that was the only picture in i have featuring the chin spoiler... couldnt avoid posting it lol
Thats alright We can see the ChinSpoiler but I thought I would rather like to look at hers:D:D:D
 
I won't quote all that, but no big surprises there. due to the design of the R3T, and the fact that there will be no sealed airbox, I expect more benefit from cooler air than pressurization.
 
I dont think I am going to be using the K&N RX-4040-1 filters. I fit them today and the riding position where your left leg would have to be isnt that comfy. Fact is its worse then as if you were sitting on a horse (at least your left leg) I may return them and just go with the smaller filters that fit under the claw.
I guess it comes to the lenght of your leg but I find the rear filter nestles nicely in the bend of my left knee and once I an clear of traffic I put my toes on the hwy pegs with my heals on the boards for a nice comfortable position and my knee sits just below the filter comfortably, in saying that it did feel a little odd at first but I got used to it quite quickly
 
32" inseam...no 7 foot basket ball player here......I dont have hwy pegs that probably would make a difference but Its not my thing...

I guess it comes to the lenght of your leg but I find the rear filter nestles nicely in the bend of my left knee and once I an clear of traffic I put my toes on the hwy pegs with my heals on the boards for a nice comfortable position and my knee sits just below the filter comfortably, in saying that it did feel a little odd at first but I got used to it quite quickly
 
First race Rocket vs 09 Busa
While up at the local bike shop shooting the sh1t with the parts manager a fellow rider walks in and starts to shoot his mouth off about his Busa...how fast it is, how it will smoke any bike..When he said this I caught a smile from the parts manager when he looked up at me. I chimed in and asked him what was done to the bike, he said.. brock alien pipe, his map, lowered with air shifter.
I asked him if he wanted to run me now, and I turned and pointed to the Rocket parked out front of the dealership. His response was expected... "yeah right, I'll kill ya"

I pulled out 250 cash and set it on the counter and said then this should be easy pickings for you...I just have one request...we go from a roll around 20mph...and run a designated 1/4 run that many others in the area do...we both start as we cross the line and winner...takes the money. He then starts..I dont have enough cash on me...I told him to go to get some money and he said his local bank is around the corner..he said he would be back in 5...and to my surprise he was. Both of us gave Joe our money to hold and off we went..


Both of us were side by side leading up to the start...as we crossed the first pole and we started,I bused him by 3-4 right out of the gate and gradually to what he said was about 8-9 as we crossed the finish pole. Back to the dealer to claim the spoils of victory...Joe asked what happened, I didnt say a word but rather looked over at the other person..."he spanked me hard 8-9 lengths"


Win 1 for the Carpenter Beast....the only looser..the inside of my right leg. The header burned right through my jeans and left a nice burn battle blister...guess its kind of like a notch in the bed post except more painful.

aid was about 8-
 
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