Exhaust Header Temp.

[barbagris]

I can take a picture of them if you like

Please - I need some excitement.

 

[Super D.]

I have a little something to throw in. Friday afternoon was the first real ride with the new exhaust. The pipes did seem to get rather warm. 87 degrees out with 80% humidity. Just figured that is the way it was. Sunday morning went out for a good hard run for about four hours. Weather was a lot cooling and did not notice very much heat coming off of pipes until I started to head home. Washed the bike Sunday afternoon. Normal wash routine is to start the bike after rinse to help dry everything out. That is when I found the leak in the exhaust. The clamp that hold the muffler on was leaking. Water on the pipe was being blown almost to the foot-peg. When I revved the engine the water was reaching the foot-peg. Went and got a 11 mm socket and much to my surprise it was loose. My bust in my hurry up and get her done state of mind I forgot to tighten the clamp up. When I installed the pipe I left every thing loose and tighten after everything was in position. Well almost everything. I did a soap check around the header and found no leaks. Apparently in my hurry up and get it done forgot to soap check the clamp and connection. Really did not think about it after fixing leak. No big deal. Well today it was about the same 87 degrees and about 80% humidity. Pipes got warm but no where near as warm as Friday. Imagine that. At 70 mph given the location of the leak it was blowing right on my foot and lower leg. Much better now and the slight backfire is gone to when slowing down. Sometimes I can be a real dumb #ss. We have access to some temperature gauges at work. If they let me which they more than likely will in a day or two I can hook you up with some readings Super D. Just for general info: I am tickled #hitles with the pipes and the tune. Thanks again Paul and Hanso.

Keep checking that muffler connection. Mine has had to be tightened down twice. I did get the PC V with Autotune, but I had to get it shipped to Oregon, and my brother is sending down to me. I'm talking to the dealer today to see what else might be going on.

 

[scot in exile]

2300cc engine no matter what exhaust system you put on it -it is going to be hot, now I live in Florida so my tolerance for heat is on the high side plus any after market system is going to be a lot hotter than stock and anyone buying an after market system should have expected a rise in the heat factor.
The stock system has excellent heat shields take all the heat shields off and you will feel the same heat, out of all the systems that Paul has sold this is the first real complaint about excess heat now does it get hot yes as do all exhausts, the gas in CA is like virgins urine which does not help you but please get the bike on a dyno(by someone who knows what they are doing) and see if that helps.

 

[HansO]

Please - I need some excitement.

will do in the morming

 

[Super D.]

2300cc engine no matter what exhaust system you put on it -it is going to be hot, now I live in Florida so my tolerance for heat is on the high side plus any after market system is going to be a lot hotter than stock and anyone buying an after market system should have expected a rise in the heat factor.
The stock system has excellent heat shields take all the heat shields off and you will feel the same heat, out of all the systems that Paul has sold this is the first real complaint about excess heat now does it get hot yes as do all exhausts, the gas in CA is like virgins urine which does not help you but please get the bike on a dyno(by someone who knows what they are doing) and see if that helps.

I understand that aftermarket exhaust systems get hot, but when the vendor vehemently denies that it doesn't , I started to question myself... and turned to the forum. I have taken Hanso's advice and bought the PC V and Autotune. I had them on my VRod, and really liked the set up.

 

[warp9.9]

I understand that aftermarket exhaust systems get hot, but when the vendor vehemently denies that it doesn't , I started to question myself... and turned to the forum. I have taken Hanso's advice and bought the PC V and Autotune. I had them on my VRod, and really liked the set up.

Dave not to butt in here, but assuming you have Paul's Viking header I wonder if the position of the standard peg rails put your leg closer to the header than say the Roadster pegs? I agree pipes are hot and even had to have a set of heat shield made for mine. Luckily I do not have a spaghetti header set up as it probably would have doubled the amount I paid for them. I did notice a difference when I first got my 07 which had standard peg rails, and that of my other beast with floor boards. This was with just some cheap looking 6 inch straight cobra heat shields on both bikes. I also noticed a difference when I removed the foot pegs and rails and went to the classic boards and rails but still had the heat shields made anyway.

I have seen Mully's set up (below) which was a Roadster and he added a little heat shield as you can see it where the roadster peg is closest to the rider leg. Imagine your heel up on the brake pedal which would be closer but still not as far as the Standard peg rails and pegs. I can see a feller like me with a 30 inch inseam having to have my legs closer. Anyway here's a picture to help see this. Hope it helps in getting things sorted out.

I will add, once I added heat shields to mine it helped on the hot days but still could get a little more heat when sitting in traffic. But on the cold times I can hug the heat shields with my leg for warmth.
Anyway hope this adds to the discussion.

 

[cusso ken]

My 2 bobs worth, you buy a 2.3 litre powered motorcycle with the exhaust exiting out the side of the motorcycle as opposed to a east west mounted engine that has the exhaust exiting toward the front of the engine and then pass under the motorcycle and out behind the riders legs, ,then you modify the stock exhaust manifold ,and surprise surprise your legs get radiated heat from the exhaust and you wonder why , maybe this is why Triumph engineers designed the plumbers pipe exhaust system and heat shields to minimise the heat problem ,as for Paul not having detailed heat data on his exhaust I bet if you contacted any other after market exhaust manufacturers they would not have them readily available either ,

 

[Steel]

I understand that aftermarket exhaust systems get hot, but when the vendor vehemently denies that it doesn't , I started to question myself... and turned to the forum. I have taken Hanso's advice and bought the PC V and Autotune. I had them on my VRod, and really liked the set up.

Don't take it personal. Some vendors can't be bothered with trivial problems, or their cheering section gets bent out of shape. If you had complained about heat, leaks, delivery time, or anything else from a North American vendor (who shall remain nameless), all the people bashing you now would be backing you. Most of the time it's a great place, but sometimes the forum seems to get biased that way.

 

[Joesmoe]

One more data point: I have the Viking headers. On a ride last fall - Mayberry Days - I burned a hole in one of my mesh pants. @mully95 was on that ride, and told me about the shield, and I have that same shield on my bike.

I have a tune from @HansO and I have never had a heat problem.

The heat is subjective. I remember for the ten years I had a Honda ST1300, there were a couple of guys on that forum who complained incessantly about the heat. And that was stock.

@Paul Bryant is NOT responsible for the heat you sense. These are choices you made -- we all made.

I'm curious now, and I will find an IR pen, and post what temperatures I record.

I will tell you, while I don't make a habit of it, and don't recommend it, I too have a 30" inseam, albeit with Touring boards, and I have ridden the bike in shorts. Yes it gets hot when stopped in traffic, but not unbearably so, and I have normal senses and no special resistance to heat or cold.

 

[HansO]

For inquiring minds the fist pic shows that the inner side has double layer and shows each side, the second pic shows the makers label for anyone interested and third pic show one of the opened up, they are a must to protect the wet weather pants, not to mention your jeans as I had one time been stuck in Sydney traffic and was resting one foot (right one of course) on the foot boards so I could hold the brake on while on a slope, I started to notice a unusual burning smell so I looked around then down only to find my jeans had been resting against the header and was smouldering way madly, after some frantic slapping with my hand I managed to put it out as there were flames starting to appear, yikes that was close, last picture is of how they look now