CanberraR3
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STRIPES
\\\STRIPES/// going to the HD shop.
That video spooks me too. I'm sure that trail of rubber on the pavement is from tire stress resulting from overinflation.
For the record, I have yet to ever put any scuff marks on the sidewall even after riding the Tail.
As an afterthought, I just went out and put a tape on my tire and see just how much footprint is on the ground. Good eye, Canberra..... it measured at just over 4.5 inches.
For the record, I have yet to ever put any scuff marks on the sidewall even after riding the Tail.
As an afterthought, I just went out and put a tape on my tire and see just how much footprint is on the ground. Good eye, Canberra..... it measured at just over 4.5 inches.
Macrider
I,m a cowboy, on a steel horse I ride.
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Thats funny, does not look like much more than 2 inches in this video..
go to video at 58 seconds. ROADSMART II VIDEO - YouTube
Thats funny, does not look like much more than 2 inches in this video..
go to video at 58 seconds. ROADSMART II VIDEO - YouTube
STRIPES
\\\STRIPES/// going to the HD shop.
OMG! You are right!
I wondering now why the difference.... I'm thinking it has to be from lower pressure in the CT allowing the car tire to extend the footprint across more of the flat area. Which makes me think (me thinking can be dangerous). Could we DS-ers over working the sidewalls if we do just twisties? Hence, if so, how long would it take to make a sidewall fail? Has anyone here running a car tire have a sidewall fail before the tread wears out? I had a bead to fail and blow out on my way to RAAIV but it was a manufacturer defect. The tire was bran spankin new.
More fodder for the two trumpeters.
I wondering now why the difference.... I'm thinking it has to be from lower pressure in the CT allowing the car tire to extend the footprint across more of the flat area. Which makes me think (me thinking can be dangerous). Could we DS-ers over working the sidewalls if we do just twisties? Hence, if so, how long would it take to make a sidewall fail? Has anyone here running a car tire have a sidewall fail before the tread wears out? I had a bead to fail and blow out on my way to RAAIV but it was a manufacturer defect. The tire was bran spankin new.
More fodder for the two trumpeters.
Dennsell
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In the video the bike dosen't have the ground clearance of the R3 and there is a huge mouse in the side wall because of the under inflation.
You guys are doing the equivalent of Genetic Modification by tyre under inflation in an effort to keep as much tread on the road as you can and to make a car tyre work on a motorcycle..
Fine by me because its your risk, but it begs the question are you willing to gamble your lives to prove it can work? even though its not designed for our application.
Its a little unnerving when some of you guys end your posts with ride safely or sometimes criticise other riders for dangerous behavior.
Sorry guys just my opinion, I hope you never have to force the ole girl down in an emegency situation on a wet road whilst being on the ct edge and on that bulbous side wall ..
Just saying in the interest of safe riding
You guys are doing the equivalent of Genetic Modification by tyre under inflation in an effort to keep as much tread on the road as you can and to make a car tyre work on a motorcycle..
Fine by me because its your risk, but it begs the question are you willing to gamble your lives to prove it can work? even though its not designed for our application.
Its a little unnerving when some of you guys end your posts with ride safely or sometimes criticise other riders for dangerous behavior.
Sorry guys just my opinion, I hope you never have to force the ole girl down in an emegency situation on a wet road whilst being on the ct edge and on that bulbous side wall ..
Just saying in the interest of safe riding
albertaduke
former airline pilot without the big bucks
In the video the bike dosen't have the ground clearance of the R3 and there is a huge mouse in the side wall because of the under inflation.
You guys are doing the equivalent of Genetic Modification by tyre under inflation in an effort to keep as much tread on the road as you can and to make a car tyre work on a motorcycle..
Fine by me because its your risk, but it begs the question are you willing to gamble your lives to prove it can work? even though its not designed for our application.
Its a little unnerving when some of you guys end your posts with ride safely or sometimes criticise other riders for dangerous behavior.
Sorry guys just my opinion, I hope you never have to force the ole girl down in an emegency situation on a wet road whilst being on the ct edge and on that bulbous side wall ..
Just saying in the interest of safe riding
I agree wholeheartedly with your well presented response not being myself very good at putting down my views I think what you wrote makes lots of sense .
I rather spend the extra money for the proper tire even when I think I am being ripped off rather than chance it with a tire formulated for an entirely different application
even when darksider feel the saving and the behavior of said tire are near perfect I think a possible unsuspecting critical situation while riding could alter the bike behavior in a way no average rider could predict and control .
beside there is always a tendency to expound and stretch positive aspects of a controversial experiment, it is the human nature . the mere fact that some rider use a CT is to a point a testament to our inquisitive mind about seaching for a better mousetrap it is however also a sobering fact that we are able to make the choice or not whether to mount the flat versus the round ..freedom of decision that is what makes it so interesting ....my 2cts
Macrider
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I dont know about you guys but I remember that before when I had the Metzlers on my bike I could feel the tire slip if I gunned the throttle a bit.
It was especially ass puckering if I was accelerating out of a turn, a momentary slip sideways of the rear tire.
I lost traction for a second.
I dont have that problem anymore with my car tire, I do not have to worry about that slippage.
That worry is gone now.
This is one reason why I will never go back to a MC tire.
I dont know about you guys but I remember that before when I had the Metzlers on my bike I could feel the tire slip if I gunned the throttle a bit.
It was especially ass puckering if I was accelerating out of a turn, a momentary slip sideways of the rear tire.
I lost traction for a second.
I dont have that problem anymore with my car tire, I do not have to worry about that slippage.
That worry is gone now.
This is one reason why I will never go back to a MC tire.
Motorcycle tires are designed to slip. If you watch a MotoGP race you will see the bikes slide on every corner. While the feeling may be disconcerting to someone not used to riding a more sporting motorcycle at its limits, the tire is performing within its design capabilities. Given a lack of road hazards, water, oil, etc, a sliding rear tire is very controllable. Reduce the lean angle, or reduce throttle input and the tire will regain traction.
My question would be what happens to a car tire when it does lose traction in a turn? At that point are you on the sidewall? Can you slide a car tire in a controlled manner and simply end the slide by reducing the lean angle or are you past the point of no return?
mexican
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I feel ilke im getting light headed with all this going around and aroud and around and around and around and,,,,,,,,,,,
I think we get it, you like car tires, great! And you dont like car tires. Great also, End of discussion
I think we get it, you like car tires, great! And you dont like car tires. Great also, End of discussion
I feel ilke im getting light headed with all this going around and aroud and around and around and around and,,,,,,,,,,,
I think we get it, you like car tires, great! And you dont like car tires. Great also, End of discussion
Sorry Lupe, just making an observation and asking a question.
I've never tried a car tire, so I can't say whether I'd like it or not.
