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[IMFASTTOO]

Did he annoyed the chit out of you for 5 hours telling you how dangerous motorcycles are?

HA you mean you didnt know that LOL

 

[1olbull]

@Wannabe
. . . And all the safety measures you mentioned have nothing to do with HP?
By all means run a CT if you wish. Just be honest regarding your motivations to do so.

 

[Wannbe]

@Wannabe
. . . And all the safety measures you mentioned have nothing to do with HP?
By all means run a CT if you wish. Just be honest regarding your motivations to do so.

Launch control / traction control is directly related to limiting hp to stop wheelie/wheel spin. And I don't see where I have been anything but honest. I am using a cheaper tire in a non designated use for better mileage and like performance. Never said any different. But you must also be honest that doubling the hp is at least as dangerous due to possible mechanical failure, aerodynamic and suspension shortcomings. Unless you never used that hp. But then why would anyone do it.
I guess what I'm really saying is information is the key. Giving good information is great. But calling someone names is unacceptable. Especially when someone is being hypocritical about it being all about safety.

 

[El Toro Rosso]

Launch control and traction control are usually based on wheel rotation differences, and they are independent of power available. Detuned driving modes or special power limiting modes are controlled by throttle position and rpm.

In neither case would retuning for power have impact, except that these modes would become active earlier. If you defeat these modes, you still have a safe bike if you're sufficiently skilled.

The same can probably be said about running a car tire. Once you get used to it, you can apply what you've learned to your riding situations.

Except that if there were a blowout, your skill set would be sorely challenged with any tire, and especially with a car tire.

But that's neither here nor there.

The only reason I respond at all in these kinds of threads is so that the uninformed can at least hear an opposing view. The car tire idea is right up there with shorts, flip flops, half shell helmets, and riding from bar to bar.

People do these things all the time. It may be part of the risk taking mystique of riding a motorcycle.

No minds will be changed until a personal experience forces the lesson.

 

[mexican]

Launch control and traction control are usually based on wheel rotation differences, and they are independent of power available. Detuned driving modes or special power limiting modes are controlled by throttle position and rpm.

In neither case would retuning for power have impact, except that these modes would become active earlier. If you defeat these modes, you still have a safe bike if you're sufficiently skilled.

The same can probably be said about running a car tire. Once you get used to it, you can apply what you've learned to your riding situations.

Except that if there were a blowout, your skill set would be sorely challenged with any tire, and especially with a car tire.

But that's neither here nor there.

The only reason I respond at all in these kinds of threads is so that the uninformed can at least hear an opposing view. The car tire idea is right up there with shorts, flip flops, half shell helmets, and riding from bar to bar.

People do these things all the time. It may be part of the risk taking mystique of riding a motorcycle.

No minds will be changed until a personal experience forces the lesson.

How many miles have you rode on a car tire?

 

[JackG]

You will notice the car tire never gets on its sidewall in a curve. I have over 90,000 miles on car tires without an issue and have been on lots of curving roads and freeways alike. I have never heard of any failures of car tires on a bike and I know many people who swear by them. I actually think the car tire rides better on the Rocket than does the oem tire. If you want to see how a car tire handles on a bike, all you have to do is check out YOUTUBE. Obviously, car tires aren't for everyone just like large motorcycles aren't.

 

[IMFASTTOO]

Launch control and traction control are usually based on wheel rotation differences, and they are independent of power available. Detuned driving modes or special power limiting modes are controlled by throttle position and rpm.

In neither case would retuning for power have impact, except that these modes would become active earlier. If you defeat these modes, you still have a safe bike if you're sufficiently skilled.

The same can probably be said about running a car tire. Once you get used to it, you can apply what you've learned to your riding situations.

Except that if there were a blowout, your skill set would be sorely challenged with any tire, and especially with a car tire.

But that's neither here nor there.

The only reason I respond at all in these kinds of threads is so that the uninformed can at least hear an opposing view. The car tire idea is right up there with shorts, flip flops, half shell helmets, and riding from bar to bar.

People do these things all the time. It may be part of the risk taking mystique of riding a motorcycle.

No minds will be changed until a personal experience forces the lesson.

YES some of the goons I know ride without any protection no Helmet ,Jacket , gloves ,glasses , shorts, flip flops , the worst one is CRAKHEAD JOHN hes always High or Drunk and riding BAR to BAR I cant be around this idiot hes a disaster SO running a CAR TIRE is not safe you can get away with it till your tire deflates for any number of reasons that can cause it to loose air quickly and it will seperate from the rim as they will not lock on the saftey bead of a motorcycle wheel so if that happens at highway speeds or any speed you and your passenger are in serious trouble with this unsafe combination of of mismatched equipment that were never designed to be used together SO GOOD LUCK trying to rationalize your choice of tiires to save a couple of dollars and risk hurting yourself and sadly your unknowing passenger .

 

[El Toro Rosso]

We used to say that the number one cause of motorcycle accidents was riding with other people.

This may be wrong now in the age of motorcycle forums.

Someone asked if I ride with car tires - in the spirit of their question, I will answer.

Yes, I ride with car tires, both front and rear. I prefer the Sum Dim ChinaChem Rubber Dumpling Division's Chit Number 2s. They really come through when the chit hits the fan.

I ride that bike with flip flops, shorts, and a straw hat whenever I go bar hopping. Note that is EVERY SINGLE TIME. ATGATT ... All Time Goofer At Tourist Trials.

If you put the rear on the front and the front on the rear, some say it's even better. Then it's called Dim Sum, and the bike handles like a sweet dumpling.

As usual, YMMV.

 

[TriumPhil]

He wont post evidence because there is none, he is jus blowing smoke as usual

To quote our new Prez, "Wrong!" Certain folks eiter will not recognize objective and qualified information as facts or simply choose to ignore certain facts, which, indeed and often sadly is their prerogative and their right to do.

 

[El Toro Rosso]

People keep saying "you never hear about car tires and motorcycle accidents."

Of course you don't. Read any accident report for cars or motorcycles. They don't generally go into details about car tires vs. motorcycle tires.

Most people at the initial investigation scene wouldn't even recognize the difference. You'd have to hire an expert witness to do an examination, and then you'd only do that if there was significant liability caused by the motorcycle.

Usually in an accident either a car turned left into the bike, or the bike ran off the road in a curve at too great a speed. No more than that is reported.

And usually the damage caused by the bike to the cage is modest, and the cage driver is not injured.

So ... this idea that if there were accidents related to car tires on bikes they'd be reported is a red herring.

I won't post again in this thread. A few people ought to like that.

As I said, I honestly don't care what you choose to do ... but I do hope that it doesn't bite you. The bite is predictable, even if 99% of the riders never experience it.