Carpenter Questions

[Kenneth67]

Oh I dunno - @Neville Lush or @Penner

Have either of these guys fitted Carpenter setups before? Or even ridden a Carpenter Rocket?

 

[barbagris]

Have either of these guys fitted Carpenter setups before? Or even ridden a Carpenter Rocket?

Not sure that matters. Both are more than capable of getting there on their own. There are guys in the UK who have created 300RWHP R3's quite happily on their own too.
This is NOT to belittle what Bob does - but more to indicate it's not the only option esp outside the US.

 

[Azisbest]

Thanks everyone for the input, all the responses are well thought out and helpful (or at least thought provoking) in making a decision. If the Carpernter facility were close it would be a no brainer, I would take the bike to them and let them have at it. The problem is they are 2000 miles from my location. Now, if I ship the bike it can take up to twenty days for the bike to get to NJ with a possible additional twenty days for the return. Add to that the possible two weeks turn around at Carpenters and we are talking being Rocketless for close to two months. Thats no fun (there is no "riding season" here! Also shipping the bike would cost close to a grand while I think I could ship the heads, ecu, etc for maybe a third of that and with maybe a four day delivery time. My local mechanic is also Triumph trained (in England) and a very trustworthy dude. One further question: They flash my ecu but apparently I also need Tuneboy or a Commander is that correct?

 

[Claviger]

I understand the distance, I shipped mine from Seattle. Yes I was without a bike for a while. Yes, it was a little over $1000.

Think of it like this, how upset are you going to be if you send the parts they come back and there is a problem with installation or tune? Now it went from two months to... who knows, all so you can save a week of down time and a grand.

It’s just a smarter move to delay gratification a week or two and ship the bike. I didn’t ship it initially because I lived in Hawaii at the time, so it was vastly worse to ship it.

You’ll need to ask bob for a definitive answer on the tuning part.

 

[Tripps]

@Triumphphill, the 240 requires a larger fuel pump, the 265 kit was originally called 270 kit, but I suspect he renamed it 265 because he was having a hard time getting 270 on every one, I never heard of anyone getting 285 by changing the fuel pump, have you?

 

[Tripps]

Azizbest, as I understand it he flashes the ecu with Tuneboy, you only need the Tuneboy if you want to edit his tune, I never bought a Tuneboy cable or anything

 

[Ted Biggie]

 

[TriumPhil]

@Triumphphill, the 240 requires a larger fuel pump, the 265 kit was originally called 270 kit, but I suspect he renamed it 265 because he was having a hard time getting 270 on every one, I never heard of anyone getting 285 by changing the fuel pump, have you?

Yes, but to my knowledge just for a few "track" (drag strip) bikes and perhaps less than a handful for customers that specified them and, if so, they have been pretty much on the down low.

When IFT [Art aka ImFastToo], to some degree and Bob, to a great degree, developed all of these kits and then released them over time to the public, it was decided to limit the tq output at the wheel to no more than 190 ft lbs. That was done to keep the gobs of extra power, purposely engineered to deliver at the higher end of the power band(s), usable/streetable so as not to be rear tire spinners/rubber melting machines or wheelie-driven pinwheels. the logic was that these beasts deliver plenty enough ponies and torque at the low end right from the factory.

Given boys and their "bigger is better" mentality, re: their toys, the inevitable upward creep of RWHP was pretty predictable, IMO.

Me, since I am neither a high risk behavior junkie nor an adherent to the maxim that "too much is never enough", I'm more than happy with my approx. 200 RWHP and about 175 ft lbs. of torque delivered to the wheel of The Mulberry Mistress. Those numbers have gotten me into and in many more cases out of trouble just fine, thank you!

 

[Tripps]

So you don't personally know of anyone either?

 

[TriumPhil]

I didn't know the customers personally, but there are a (very) few that have had their steeds so equipped, at least according to IFT's anecdotes.