I've never ridden one. Do they feel like they want to fall over every chance they get, like an HD Electraglide ? Rented a 2005 and a 2009. Both felt like top heavy to the point of being unsafe, even with the tour pack empty. I was a nervous wreck on those rentals with their $2000.00 deductible insurance. Here is a picture of my Rocket with my "tour pack". I would guess it to weigh about 80 lbs. The bike looks like it would be nearly unrideable, yet I can barley tell it's even there. Better engineering I call it.