5.75 Daymaker alternatives?

[hvacnr]

I dunno since I don't have much history on this bike. Previous owner was good to do regular maintenance but no upgrades. He purchased it used from a dealer and only put about 5K on it. Bike has a total of 40K miles on it. I am looking forward to scoping out some details this weekend.

Hi, my 05 had dim lights on it when I got it. there are threads on here that talk about this issue. What is going on is power to the head lights is going through the ignition switch and over heating the switch causing a high resistance and reduction of power to lights. The Eastern Beaver kit bypasses this resistance and restore the lighting quality. The threads that address this issue explains it better than I could ever.

 

[R3Tex]

Be it known that I don't support knockoff anything. I believe that any person or company that comes up with a better mouse trap should be duely rewarded for their inginuity, foresight and the general pain of bringing a new product to market. Having said that ANYTHING is better than the OEM highlights provided by Triumph (they should be illegal) and I don't fault anyone for upgrading to the chinese knockoffs. I still believe the JWS or HD (really re-branded JWS) are still the superior option

 

[IMFASTTOO]

NIST test or not, my Chinese knockoffs are 3 times brighter, from my perspective on the bike at night. I don't have $700 spare to purchase real Daymakers so these eBay torches have been absolutely great for me

YES the DAYMAKERS might be the best but the CHEAPOS are very good according to the shops that sell both

 

[IMFASTTOO]

Be it known that I don't support knockoff anything. I believe that any person or company that comes up with a better mouse trap should be duely rewarded for their inginuity, foresight and the general pain of bringing a new product to market. Having said that ANYTHING is better than the OEM highlights provided by Triumph (they should be illegal) and I don't fault anyone for upgrading to the chinese knockoffs. I still believe the JWS or HD (really re-branded JWS) are still the superior option

ACTUALLY the lights on both of my ROCKETS are good and I cant complain but I can always use even better and I will try the CHEAPOS for $32 first

 

[WyldCFH]

Well crap!
I didn't check with folks to see because I forgot to load my light meter.
Guess you'll have to put up here so we can test them.
I have spare bedroom . . .

One of these days I will make it up that way.

 

[barbagris]

If you want THE BEST - fit adaptive lights. At the moment that is ONLY JW Speaker - but hopefully will change.
Head for some bends. After you take a nice series of twisties fast-ish - ALL the others become "useless".
During the daytime - then anything will do - actually the crappier the better as all you'll get is scatter.

I have built, bought and adapted a myriad of LED lights - cheap and EXPENSIVE.Was working on my own Adaptive set but the tilt sensors were too sensitive.
Still buy them to test in the cars, when I'm bored with machining gun barrels for mates. And take advantage of my mates bike shop to test on all sorts of bikes.

LEDS require THE RIGHT optics for them to work well. Their position relative to the optics is FAR more critical than with a wide Kelvin spectrum wire filament.
They are also VERY temperature critical. A good high efficiency LED will dim fast if it gets hot. For this reason most automotive LEDS are lower efficiency but VERY stable.
Most CAR LED lights (OEM) are fan cooled. Live somewhere COLD then it's less of an issue - but In summer here then LEDs will gate down FAST.

The OEM triumph lens/reflector are FAR from good with most "BULBS". tbh MOST 5&3/4" lights are poor compared to 7".
The same LED "bulb" can be OK in one lamp and seriously crappy in another. We've tested dozens.
On the whole the LED bulbs SEEM to function best in OLD 7" units with a patterned Lens.

If they pass the 'bul test then the results are empirical.

Folk will happily spend fortunes on chrome, go faster mods, loud pipes etc and then ride in a gloom because good lights are expensive.

 

[IMFASTTOO]

If you want THE BEST - fit adaptive lights. At the moment that is ONLY JW Speaker - but hopefully will change.
Head for some bends. After you take a nice series of twisties fast-ish - ALL the others become "useless".
During the daytime - then anything will do - actually the crappier the better as all you'll get is scatter.

I have built, bought and adapted a myriad of LED lights - cheap and EXPENSIVE.Was working on my own Adaptive set but the tilt sensors were too sensitive.
Still buy them to test in the cars, when I'm bored with machining gun barrels for mates. And take advantage of my mates bike shop to test on all sorts of bikes.

LEDS require THE RIGHT optics for them to work well. Their position relative to the optics is FAR more critical than with a wide Kelvin spectrum wire filament.
They are also VERY temperature critical. A good high efficiency LED will dim fast if it gets hot. For this reason most automotive LEDS are lower efficiency but VERY stable.
Most CAR LED lights (OEM) are fan cooled. Live somewhere COLD then it's less of an issue - but In summer here then LEDs will gate down FAST.

The OEM triumph lens/reflector are FAR from good with most "BULBS". tbh MOST 5&3/4" lights are poor compared to 7".
The same LED "bulb" can be OK in one lamp and seriously crappy in another. We've tested dozens.
On the whole the LED bulbs SEEM to function best in OLD 7" units with a patterned Lens.

If they pass the 'bul test then the results are empirical.

Folk will happily spend fortunes on chrome, go faster mods, loud pipes etc and then ride in a gloom because good lights are expensive.

LIKE I said my standard lighting on both my bikes is fine but I will certainly upgrade to the CHEAPO $32 replacements that Ive seen in use by another Rocket owner and they are very bright with a nice pattern MY friend has a new Harley with DAYMAKERS and they are as expected very good BUT of course in the twisties not as good as the bikes with additional lighting SO if you want the optimum you have to go custom

 

[barbagris]

LIKE I said my standard lighting on both my bikes is fine but I will certainly upgrade to the CHEAPO $32 replacements that Ive seen in use by another Rocket owner and they are very bright with a nice pattern MY friend has a new Harley with DAYMAKERS and they are as expected very good BUT of course in the twisties not as good as the bikes with additional lighting SO if you want the optimum you have to go custom

Art - See if you can get a set of the ADAPTIVE lights to test. Really.

It is really something to bank into a bend and see that all of a sudden the bend is clearly lit - even cranked over 30°. I have to do a lot more night work than usual when I visit my mum in the UK. A lot of twisty and unlit roads. Here the days are longer. The previous year in the UK I had non adaptive lights (Speaker/Daymaker1) in and the difference is truly spectacular. They are the only lights I've had on a bike that surpass my DAYTIME riding ability. Simply I do not HAVE TO go slower at night any more.

 

[1olbull]

NIST test or not, my Chinese knockoffs are 3 times brighter, from my perspective on the bike at night. I don't have $700 spare to purchase real Daymakers so these eBay torches have been absolutely great for me

Totally understand and I am certain they are a HUGE improvement over the OEM.
Heck, a decent flashlight would be better than the OEM headlights!

 

[1olbull]

YES the DAYMAKERS might be the best but the CHEAPOS are very good according to the shops that sell both

"Very good" is not quantifiable and actually meaningless.
The light your eyes see is NOT a measure of a hazard you can discern, react to and avoid.