2 Rockets Compare Dobeck Performance AFR Plus to TuneECU - Long Post

[1olbull]

Ask him how many bikes he's tuned with Tuneboy or TuneECU. If none, find someone else. I you can't find anyone with a lot of experience and you want to [calibrate] thefuel for some reason like you've installed new pistons or exhaust or some such, think about getting a Power Commander if you can find someone who is good at tuning these. Before you do, buy the TuneECU cable and use that free program to create and load a tune to open the secondaries 100% - before you get the PC dyno tuned. The only reason Triumph closed them was to reduce the torque so people wouldn't kill themselves or ruin the bikes. Note that they have abandoned this bullcrap with the new Roadsters [for the most part] by opening the secondaries 100% in the peak torque area.

Thanks, Doug.
I currently have a PCV+AT and the cable. Bike runs good' however, from past experience with my other cruiser I agree with Grey Beard that there is NO replacement for a proper dyno tune to the actual motor my ass sits astride.

 

[Tripps]

I definitely appreciate the post, but my knowledge is very limited, I had nothing to add.

 

[1olbull]

Mark Dobeck started Dynojet in Belgrade, MT, a LONG time ago (1984-1985 IIRC). He hired in a couple of guys that designed and produced the first Power Commanders - adjustable with a screwdriver via dashpots. The company was sold and moved to Las Vegas about 4-5 years later. [He then founded Dobeck Performance that has produced quite a few different products over the years.]

The second owners continued with the Power Commander evolution, but it was sold about 3 years later to the current owners. The original PC inventors have long since left - they actually worked for Marc Salvisberg at Factory Pro to develop his TEKA units.

The PCV came out in 2009, and is just a PC3 USB made with a single chip. This makes it a bit cheaper and easier to produce, and gives it a few new abilities that had to be handled externally in prior units.

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I well remember the first PC units - not fun, but the best we had at the time. Carbs were still better, at that time. It didn't take long for software and 8 bit and 16 bit E-PROM burners to arrive on the scene and some of us moved into this fairly early. CLUMSY software, and very time consuming to tune.

The BAD old days.

This is some interesting history. Thanks.
Called when I was in Bama - you be booked up.
So when are you going to pack up your bag of tricks and come to the NW?
Trees AND money are greener up here!

 

[R3R Torque]

So when are you going to pack up your bag of tricks and come to the NW?
Trees AND money are greener up here!

PowerTripp visiting the NW. Count me in...

Only place I know of in all the NW that I'd trust with my bike is Latus HD and Triumph.
They have an excellent reputation and tuned my last HD to perfection. I could be wrong, but I don't think they have a lot of experience tuning Triumph Rockets since they've only been carrying the brand for about a year and a half.

 

[R3R Torque]

Little clarification to my previous post. Looks like Latus may have a little more experience with Triumph than I originally thought. They have their own Triumph racing team.

GEICO Motorcycle AMA Pro Road Racing Teams - Latus Motors Triumph

And their rider Jason DiSalvo broke the speed record on a Carpenter Rocket 3.
DiSalvo Conquers the Salt Flats - Ride a Triumph

 

[barbagris]

I'm curious - what questions would you recommend asking a prospective dyno operator in order to ascertain if he is THE MAN to tune your motor??? 1olbull

The man?

In the USA - Are you Wayne Tripp?
In Australia - Are you Nev Lush?.

In the youkay there are a few I think - Richard at TTS for example.

Spain - is it a braked Dyno? - the answer will be no.

 

[barbagris]

****, grey beard!
Erudite, pithy and eloquent come to my mind!

Too kind.:bch: - But much of the factual basis of my thoughts has come from Messrs Tripp and Lush. My ability to manage the English language - that comes from my father.
I have been told that with training I'd have made an incredible inquisitor - This by a Jesuit teacher. Confess!

Thanks for taking the time to post this. My understanding of things FI increased on a 0% to 100% . . . from 2% to 4%. Still so much to learn about this stuff.

The day I stop learning - I'd rather not be about. Though actually I probably won't care much about anything - somebody else will be wiping the dribble off my shirt.

Figuring out this sort of stuff actually wakes me up at 3AM with "Eurekas". So much so I have to take medication to keep me asleep and to keep mental hyperactivity at bay during the day.

I've said it before - but if I had the time and money - I'd go and work free of charge for Wayne and Nev - there's nothing like first hand data collection.

 

[1olbull]

Barba gris,
I know about that inability to shut off your mind when sleep is needed.
Fortunate for me it is only an occasional occurrence.

I completely agree with you about the continual need to use your mind and learn.

Just being nosey as I have been to Spain; but, how long have you been there and what keeps you there. Been many years since I was there and I loved it. Up in the hills near Ronda, looking out toward Gibraltar was the very first time I thought about where I'd like to retire. Hasn't worked out so far; but, I do vividly remember it.
Best Regards,
1olbull

 

[steve59]

I'm new to the rocket and just getting a feel for all this beast has on tap, thanks for the info with the tune #'s most of my cash these days goes to rubber, oil, and gas, but when I get all the comfort acc's on and paid for I will be looking for cheap power. thats whats so great about this bike right out of the box it's a load. enjoy

 

[barbagris]

Just being nosey as I have been to Spain; but, how long have you been there and what keeps you there. Been many years since I was there and I loved it. Up in the hills near Ronda, looking out toward Gibraltar was the very first time I thought about where I'd like to retire.

Ronda's nice - I did some consulting there many years ago. I'd like to think I'll retire near Cadiz or the Canaries. That or maybe the northern shore of Lake Constanz in Germany.

In total I've been here now about 17 years in total. I left the UK in 1990 and have been in Germany or Spain ever since.

What keeps me here?. Mmmmm! - Well my wife's Spanish for a start - though she's quite happy to live elsewhere as she's not as keen on the heat as I am. And as she's now a civil servant - we pretty much are guaranteed an income forever - and right now in Spain that's really important.

I like being where it's warm - I was born and initially raised in the West Indies so the UK never suited my expectations of warmth.

I simply cant think of any reason right now why not to stay here I guess is a big reason.

I think if I were to move RADICALLY - it'd be to New Zealand. Don't really know why - I don't like lamb.