Rockatansky
Supercharged
Oh, that's easy: because some of us have to take care to ride their bike with the wheel size defined in the papers - which is
240/50 R16
and not 240/55 R16...
Oh, that's easy: because some of us have to take care to ride their bike with the wheel size defined in the papers - which is
240/50 R16
and not 240/55 R16...
Nashvegas
That’s a Rocket, son.
I was born in Nuremberg and have lived in Wurzburg, Heidelberg, and the latest was in Kirchgoens but the last time I was there was ’83. “Show me your papers!” Screw that.
Mighty Mouse
It's All In The Reflexes!
I had the Excedra max on my 14 Rocket and liked them for touring/cruising but not so much on the backroads. They are a very good tire but I liked the Avon on my 14 and 2020 Rocket a little better for all round riding. It's a personal preference and the Avon suits me and my style better. If I liked the Excedra better I would stick with the 240/55 R16 not being too concerned about what the spec sheet says. If that be the case then zero modifications to the Rocket would be in keeping with Triumph specs. I'm thinking Penniers tune isn't on the spec sheet either. You have to go outside the box sometimes. Cheers.
Dr.D
Octane Boost
Too lazy to make the change. I heard it required making change to bolts and shims and stuff.
Price- money, what’s that?
I do have the Exedra Max on the 2014 Roadster and I like it on that bike. Once I get used to a tire I usually stick with it.
Journeyman
"And this one is just right" ~ Goldilocks
Too lazy to make the change. I heard it required making change to bolts and shims and stuff.
I do have the Exedra Max on the 2014 Roadster and I like it on that bike. Once I get used to a tire I usually stick with it.
The modification is so basically easy. Filling a cavity surely is more difficult. Wait, wait, I know... you get paid to do THAT. Really, Doc, nothing to it and then you are set for life.
Glad @Claviger chimed in on this. Having first come into this group with a Roadster I will say that, in comparison, that the 2.5 owners, in general, are very resistant to going their own way, including wrenching their own bike.
Claviger
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The new model is a great bike and Triumph did great things to make it more appealing and accessible across a broader audience, thus the difference in crowd. The commercial success of the bike is in everyone's best interest.
For the Euros who actually have the sizes enforced, you sadly don't have much choice.
I was unaware the new bike can't fit the 55 profile without some mods, bummer.
People will run what they think is best, I don't care if people run even Shinkos anymore, their bike their choice.
I've run all available 240/5XR16s, these are my experiences, I'm particularly picky about tires and their "on limits" manners. They all work perfectly fine at roughly double posted speed limits and under in corners.
Emax:
The Exedra Max R has every bit of corner grip, drive off corner grip, hole shot grip and better wet/cold grip than the Avon at 35-40% of the price and gets more miles. The extra height is pure benefit. The Emax has without question, the smoothest break away and regrip manners of all 240s, it also has the hardest carcass and gives the least feedback. It has the most hemispherical profile and gives a very linear tip in / adjustment behavior. All of the fastest mountain/canyon riders I've seen on Rockets run this tire. I've repeatedly datalogged sub 2.8 second 0-60 mph on a light controlled freeway on ramp without TC when at the 190whp level. Have seen 7500 miles on an Emax, but many riders get 9k+.
Avon:
The Avon gives the best feedback of all of them due to the soft carcass, it is a very confidence inspiring tire. It has the best tip in / mid corner adjustment due to its shape. It also is the 2nd easiest to overheat and turn greasy, behind the G851. The Avon has the worst manners under 40f of all of the 240s. The Avon was also very difficult to use on the drag strip compared to the Emax, continually spun up 1st gear despite having VHT and a hot tire, As I recall, I never finished an Avon due to mileage, catching punctures in 3 in a row before switching to Emax.
TrashMax:
The G851 is trash and a "stuck in BFE need a tire and it's all they have" tire. Fast wearing, low grip, can't cope with the weight/torque, overheats crazy fast. A tire made for lesser bikes (Suzukis). Dead in under 3000 miles.
Metzler:
Metzler is pure mediocrity. Wandery, cuppy, terrible edge grip, unpredictable slip/grip on the cornering limits characteristics and overpriced to boot. Middle of pack feedback, middle of pack wear, middle of pack everything really. Dead at 4800 miles.
A lot of people don't ride quickly so the difference doesn't matter and a lot of quick people don't notice a lot of subtle feedback the bikes give, so it doesn't matter for them either. For those who ride on the bike's limit (not their limit), aka riders who are faster than the bike, on roads like Mount Lemon / Route 666 / The Dragon...it matters.
For the Euros who actually have the sizes enforced, you sadly don't have much choice.
I was unaware the new bike can't fit the 55 profile without some mods, bummer.
People will run what they think is best, I don't care if people run even Shinkos anymore, their bike their choice.
I've run all available 240/5XR16s, these are my experiences, I'm particularly picky about tires and their "on limits" manners. They all work perfectly fine at roughly double posted speed limits and under in corners.
Emax:
The Exedra Max R has every bit of corner grip, drive off corner grip, hole shot grip and better wet/cold grip than the Avon at 35-40% of the price and gets more miles. The extra height is pure benefit. The Emax has without question, the smoothest break away and regrip manners of all 240s, it also has the hardest carcass and gives the least feedback. It has the most hemispherical profile and gives a very linear tip in / adjustment behavior. All of the fastest mountain/canyon riders I've seen on Rockets run this tire. I've repeatedly datalogged sub 2.8 second 0-60 mph on a light controlled freeway on ramp without TC when at the 190whp level. Have seen 7500 miles on an Emax, but many riders get 9k+.
Avon:
The Avon gives the best feedback of all of them due to the soft carcass, it is a very confidence inspiring tire. It has the best tip in / mid corner adjustment due to its shape. It also is the 2nd easiest to overheat and turn greasy, behind the G851. The Avon has the worst manners under 40f of all of the 240s. The Avon was also very difficult to use on the drag strip compared to the Emax, continually spun up 1st gear despite having VHT and a hot tire, As I recall, I never finished an Avon due to mileage, catching punctures in 3 in a row before switching to Emax.
TrashMax:
The G851 is trash and a "stuck in BFE need a tire and it's all they have" tire. Fast wearing, low grip, can't cope with the weight/torque, overheats crazy fast. A tire made for lesser bikes (Suzukis). Dead in under 3000 miles.
Metzler:
Metzler is pure mediocrity. Wandery, cuppy, terrible edge grip, unpredictable slip/grip on the cornering limits characteristics and overpriced to boot. Middle of pack feedback, middle of pack wear, middle of pack everything really. Dead at 4800 miles.
A lot of people don't ride quickly so the difference doesn't matter and a lot of quick people don't notice a lot of subtle feedback the bikes give, so it doesn't matter for them either. For those who ride on the bike's limit (not their limit), aka riders who are faster than the bike, on roads like Mount Lemon / Route 666 / The Dragon...it matters.
Rockatansky
Supercharged
I was born in Nuremberg and have lived in Wurzburg, Heidelberg, and the latest was in Kirchgoens but the last time I was there was ’83. “Show me your papers!” Screw that.
So you know the business.
It was exactly in 83 when I drove down Mainaustrasse, when a well known Cop with the name "Kopp" (not unusual in Franconia) drove to my left and screamed "stop your Mofa or I kick you down!" ... just because I drove 60 instead of 25...
That's the price you pay for having the possibility to drive 250 on the highway...
Frans
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only 250 because the German cars are limited to that top speed, don't know about their bikes. We more then once went there to "test" our bikes and had real fun to overtake some of those cars as their limiter kick in
Journeyman
"And this one is just right" ~ Goldilocks
WARNING- highly skilled mechanical abilities required.....
Let me anticipate a response. "I don't like that gap below the spacer." I've never seen anyone crawling around my bike that close who would notice it, but if it bothers you then just fill it with a piece of rubber gasket.
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Let me anticipate a response. "I don't like that gap below the spacer." I've never seen anyone crawling around my bike that close who would notice it, but if it bothers you then just fill it with a piece of rubber gasket.
Mounting an Exedra Max rear tire on the new 3R = Better Handling
This is a DIY install of the Exedra Max on the new 3R. It requires minor modifications to the forward most rear fender and, if doing it yourself, a tire stand and Mojo Lever - I'd say about a two beer rating for time/difficulty. The result, in my opinion, is a less expensive tire that provides...
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Dr.D
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I think your assessment of the new Rocket owners is spot on. There is not a lot of aftermarket for it yet, it is better out of the box and there are far more electrical components to consider. These factors influence the do it yourself ideology plus the new buyers may be younger on average and less inclined to tackle mechanical issues.
I'm just timid and not experienced. Heck i had a time putting a new battery on my RM. It would not start after the new battery was installed. Well chit it should be a simple job right? I had the new battery tested, and it was good, so I took the ground wire off and cleaned everything up then took 100 grit sandpaper to all the surfaces and added the electrical magic grease. Wa la it started. I was so proud.
Doing a full ceramic coat on it now. I can polish and coat stuff.Similar threads
