Tune Edit?

[leatal]

Was at my Triumph dealership a week or so back (D+D Cycles in Pensacola) and got to talk to the mechanic about dyno tuning (after I finish the mods of exhaust and filter). They run the circuit of racing bikes and tune via the dyno using "Tune Edit". He said they can tune using PCV and said he can tune through Tune ECU if I bring him the cable. He charges a flat rate of $80 an hour and stated the further off the fuel prior to tuning, the more time it takes to tune. He also said when they are on the road racing, Dynojet usually has a dyno set up so they can tune before the race to get the best performance for the altitude/conditions. If there is no dyno, they use PCV and Autotune to get the bike dialed in. First, does anyone know what Tune Edit is? Second, does an open ended $80 an hour sound good for a dyno as it could run into many hours to tune? Third, should I just purchase PCV with Autotune (he said I could get close to the same results as a dyno using this combo). Anybody with knowledge of all this tuning stuff have any suggestions? Oh, and I apologize for being so long winded.

 

[warp9.9]

Most likely when he speaks of Tune Edit he means Tune Boy which has a separate Tune Edit and a Tune Boy dash. While Tune ECU incorporates both in one program. He can also tune with PCV and auto tune but in order to do what tune edit does he will need other goodies made by power commander to control or alter timing. Without it all he can do is fueling. 80 a hour sounds pretty fair to me I would be visiting this guy a lot if he was in Illinois.

 

[dougl]

Was at my Triumph dealership a week or so back (D+D Cycles in Pensacola) and got to talk to the mechanic about dyno tuning (after I finish the mods of exhaust and filter). They run the circuit of racing bikes and tune via the dyno using "Tune Edit". He said they can tune using PCV and said he can tune through Tune ECU if I bring him the cable. He charges a flat rate of $80 an hour and stated the further off the fuel prior to tuning, the more time it takes to tune. He also said when they are on the road racing, Dynojet usually has a dyno set up so they can tune before the race to get the best performance for the altitude/conditions. If there is no dyno, they use PCV and Autotune to get the bike dialed in. First, does anyone know what Tune Edit is? Second, does an open ended $80 an hour sound good for a dyno as it could run into many hours to tune? Third, should I just purchase PCV with Autotune (he said I could get close to the same results as a dyno using this combo). Anybody with knowledge of all this tuning stuff have any suggestions? Oh, and I apologize for being so long winded.

What exhaust and intake are you installing? If he uses TuneEdit, you will have to pay for a license to use it on your bike. Since he sounds like an expert tuner, why don't you let him decide whether he'd like to use Tuneboy or Power Commander to tune your bike and get an estimate for both? The Power Commander itself will cost $350. While you're doing the exhaust and intake mods, order a TuneECU cable on Amazon, put TuneECU on your computer, and load a tune with the secondaries open 100%. I would put Hanso's Blasted Bones tune in. This will be pretty close. Unless you're installing new cams, you probably don't have to worry about timing. With a good tuner available to you, don't bother with Autotune.

 

[idk]

I have TuneBoy/TuneEdit, as well as TuneECU, and also PCV/AT. Here are my suggestions.

1. Don't buy TuneBoy/TuneEdit as it is expensive and, in my experience, has lousy after sales service. For your purposes TuneECU will do all you need to do.

2. Get TuneECU. It is free as a PC sytem program, and has a low cost as a Droid app. The cable will set you back about $20. You will find it the most cost effective and essential tool that you ever get for your bike. Get it even if you get the PCV/AT. If your tuning chap can use TuneECU then you should get a good result. Plan on 3 or 4 hours at the dyno. It may be a bit less, which will be a bonus for you.

3. If you get the PCV/AT instead of having it dyno-tuned then you will get a very good result. Although the dyno-tune may give a slightly more power, you probably wouldn't notice it in the real world. The big advantage of PCV/AT is that if you change your air filter setup, or exhaust pipes, etc., then the bike will be able to re-tune itself without the need of another visit to the dyno machine.

4. Contact @HansO and ask him for maps for TuneECU and for PCV/AT, for your model of bike, and the filter/exhaust setup that you have, and you will be good to go.

It may be worth just getting the TuneECU and map before spending money on either the dyno or PCV/AT and seeing how it works for you. My bet is that it will be pretty close - and for a total investment of $20, you won't be out of pocket.

 

[dougl]

I have TuneBoy/TuneEdit, as well as TuneECU, and also PCV/AT. Here are my suggestions.

1. Don't buy TuneBoy/TuneEdit as it is expensive and, in my experience, has lousy after sales service. For your purposes TuneECU will do all you need to do.

2. Get TuneECU. It is free as a PC sytem program, and has a low cost as a Droid app. The cable will set you back about $20. You will find it the most cost effective and essential tool that you ever get for your bike. Get it even if you get the PCV/AT. If your tuning chap can use TuneECU then you should get a good result. Plan on 3 or 4 hours at the dyno. It may be a bit less, which will be a bonus for you.

3. If you get the PCV/AT instead of having it dyno-tuned then you will get a very good result. Although the dyno-tune may give a slightly more power, you probably wouldn't notice it in the real world. The big advantage of PCV/AT is that if you change your air filter setup, or exhaust pipes, etc., then the bike will be able to re-tune itself without the need of another visit to the dyno machine.

4. Contact @HansO and ask him for maps for TuneECU and for PCV/AT, for your model of bike, and the filter/exhaust setup that you have, and you will be good to go.

It may be worth just getting the TuneECU and map before spending money on either the dyno or PCV/AT and seeing how it works for you. My bet is that it will be pretty close - and for a total investment of $20, you won't be out of pocket.

With 6 fuel tables to adjust, how do you figure only 3-4 hours on the dyno with TuneECU, especially since you have to turn the engine off to make adjustments?

 

[idk]

With 6 fuel tables to adjust, how do you figure only 3-4 hours on the dyno with TuneECU, especially since you have to turn the engine off to make adjustments?

Based on having my bike tuned by PowerTripp.

btw, that particular tuning is used by Hans0 as a base for a lot of his tunes, with a lot of very happy people using them.

 

[Claviger]

Don't buy Tuneboy, you own a 2014 Roadster.

Tuneboy/TuneEdit doesn't work with your bike.

Yes I know the website says it does.

NO it doesn't work with your bike.

There are multiple documented cases of this on this forum. Currently there is no compatible tune for your bike using the Tuneboy/Tuneedit software. It will connect, it will let you read/clear codes, but it WONT be able to be tuned using tuneboy/tuneedit since there is not a base tune that will work with a 2014.

DONT BUY TUNEBOY!

 

[leatal]

What exhaust and intake are you installing? If he uses TuneEdit, you will have to pay for a license to use it on your bike. Since he sounds like an expert tuner, why don't you let him decide whether he'd like to use Tuneboy or Power Commander to tune your bike and get an estimate for both? The Power Commander itself will cost $350. While you're doing the exhaust and intake mods, order a TuneECU cable on Amazon, put TuneECU on your computer, and load a tune with the secondaries open 100%. I would put Hanso's Blasted Bones tune in. This will be pretty close. Unless you're installing new cams, you probably don't have to worry about timing. With a good tuner available to you, don't bother with Autotune.

I plan on installing the Carp Sidewinder and the Carp intake (if I can get it filtered somehow). I do have the cable for Tune ECU and already downloaded the program on my computer. Just haven't had time to play with it. Actually, I'm afraid I might dork up things by playing with the ECU! This is just a starting point as I plan on installing cam/pistons next January when the warranty runs out.

 

[Idaho Red Rocket 3]

Every time you change a major component like the intake, exhaust, cams, pistons you will need a remap or dyno tune. One of the most important thing you need to control is Air Fuel Ratio as that will change when these items are changed. May I suggest the Dobeck Performance AFR Plus. It controls the AFR and send a cleaner signal to the injectors. Benefits are your desired AFR is always maintained, cooler running engine, better performance and mpg. No remap or dyno tune needed.

 

[chomas]

Don't buy Tuneboy, you own a 2014 Roadster.

Tuneboy/TuneEdit doesn't work with your bike.

Yes I know the website says it does.

NO it doesn't work with your bike.

There are multiple documented cases of this on this forum. Currently there is no compatible tune for your bike using the Tuneboy/Tuneedit software. It will connect, it will let you read/clear codes, but it WONT be able to be tuned using tuneboy/tuneedit since there is not a base tune that will work with a 2014.

DONT BUY TUNEBOY!

I can verify this also. After numerous times trying to get help from them I just gave up. I never got Tuneboy to work with my 2014 Roadster. Very frustrating to say the least. I have a PCV/AT now.