Im still alive and the rings are being done buy a new caster that is very good with fine details i have seen his work and he says that this will be no problem for him to do! I have Kens ring cleaned up and polished blackened the sides just fine! but with the different levels on the top it is a lot harder to get the paint where i want it without getting it on parts that i dont have tried like 5 times and was not happy with it so i am buying a syringe with a small fine needle and try to add it that way!please dont think that we dont know what we are doing we just have a lot of details and levels in these ring. But i know this they are looking good and I am sorry for all the delays it never take us this long to complete a job.the caster says he will be shipping me the mtg. by this friday and then it's up to me to finish them out! We will do everything in our power to get them going out by next week as long as they look good and i think they will.I am truly sorry for the the delays hopefully we are in the home stretch now. and the ladies mtg. will be here soon as well. I didn't want to give them to the other caster until i had a good product on the men's!I am better now and will keep u updated more. once again thanks for the patience! claudia