Removing the Cam Ladder

[TURBO200R4]

I wonder if the factory sets them to max clearance. Has anyone found the clearance to be too much?

a couple of mine rattled when cold so i assume they were over the max and some one said close enough.

 

[Ugarte]

Ugarte since you only need to do 1 exhaust valve, try making and using the screwdriver tool to depress the valve bucket. You will need 2 people to do the job that way.

That is exactly what I am going to do. Why two people? Maybe i misunderstand, but it seems you would press with one hand and either use a tweezers or magnet to remove the shim with the other hand, and installation would be the reverse. What am I missing?

 

[Idaho Red Rocket 3]

That is exactly what I am going to do. Why two people? Maybe i misunderstand, but it seems you would press with one hand and either use a tweezers or magnet to remove the shim with the other hand, and installation would be the reverse. What am I missing?

I thought that too....until I tried to do it. It takes a lot of strength to depress the valve. It takes 2 hands to remove the shim. One person to depress and one person to remove shim.

 

[TURBO200R4]

ugarte the outside extractors is the way to go. just take one of the bolts in the store with u and make sure it looks like the extractor fits the head of the bolt.
make sure it wont stop at the head and can go on to the bolt far enough to get a grip. i pound the on a little to get a grip then when u put the pressure to take the bolt off they will try to thread on a little better i have used them to get out broken exhaust bolts and rounded off crank bolts and also torix bolts that was stripped.
they have a small set but i had to buy the bigger set with a better selection. the one that i have is made by craftsman and has 13 extractors tools in it. if u can measure the bolt head od and height i could see if one of them fits.

 

[Ugarte]

ugarte the outside extractors is the way to go. just take one of the bolts in the store with u and make sure it looks like the extractor fits the head of the bolt.
make sure it wont stop at the head and can go on to the bolt far enough to get a grip. i pound the on a little to get a grip then when u put the pressure to take the bolt off they will try to thread on a little better i have used them to get out broken exhaust bolts and rounded off crank bolts and also torix bolts that was stripped.
they have a small set but i had to buy the bigger set with a better selection. the one that i have is made by craftsman and has 13 extractors tools in it. if u can measure the bolt head od and height i could see if one of them fits.

That sounds great Turbo but access prevents this. If the engine were off the frame it would be no problem. It is hard enough on some of the bolts just to get the torx bit onto the bolt, let alone accurately drill and insert an easy out. It is the outside bolts that are freezing and they have the least room to work with because of the frame. There is no way to get the drill vertical.

 

[TURBO200R4]

That sounds great Turbo but access prevents this. If the engine were off the frame it would be no problem. It is hard enough on some of the bolts just to get the torx bit onto the bolt, let alone accurately drill and insert an easy out. It is the outside bolts that are freezing and they have the least room to work with because of the frame. There is no way to get the drill vertical.

the extractors that i am talking about they do not work by drilling they grab the out side of the bolt head
picture a piece of 6 sided stock about 9/16 and 1 inch long with six teeth that would go over grab and hold the outer part of the head.

 

[Ugarte]

the extractors that i am talking about they do not work by drilling they grab the out side of the bolt head
picture a piece of 6 sided stock about 9/16 and 1 inch long with six teeth that would go over grab and hold the outer part of the head.

Well, that would work. I have never seen those before, would they be available at any hardware store? Can you post a picture of one?

 

[TURBO200R4]

the one i have is 13 pieces but all i could find was this 10 piece. hth

Craftsman 10 pc. Damaged Bolt/Nut Remover Set Low Profile Bolt-Out

 

[TURBO200R4]

this one is six pieces and would more that likely work.


Craftsman 6-Piece Bolt-Out Set

 

[Rocket Scientist]

Two thoughts come to mind. A small set of vice grips with the curved jaws. Or a trick I've used many times. Take a sturdy screw driver or small chisel and drive it into the screw head from the side to make a notch. Then angle the screw driver / chisel and use the notch to strike the screw in the direction it needs to turn.