Reasonable Amount to Pay?

I'm not my dealer's keeper...

Thanks for the replies. However, I don't understand the line of thinking that implies that if I try to get the best deal I can that I'm somehow responsible for the dealer going out of business. Does anyone think that I (or any buyer) can force the dealer to take my offer? I wish I had such power! A business savvy dealer will only take my offer if he feels it's in his best interest to do so at the time.

That's called the "market". And the only time the playing field between a buyer and a seller is level is if both know the true cost of the item in question. Most of the time it's the seller that has the upper hand since only the seller knows the true cost. I don't apologize to anyone for trying to level the playing field.

I have only one question for those of you who "know" the true cost of the bike -- are you really going to pay the MSRP? Hmmmm? I didn't think so! Thanks for sharing...

I'd love to have it but garage is full.

For Sale - Triumph Rocket III

STRIPES said:

For Sale - Triumph Rocket III

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This needs to go into the Classifieds: R3 Owners.Net Classifieds - R3Owners.Net

Did not imply anything other than buy from your dealer what you can at what you believe is a fair price. There are several Triumph dealers who never go below list but they will offer a value-added price on add-ons and many will include them at no extra.

Flip, you did a great job on something that needed some explaining.

For JLoss, I don't think it was implied that you would put the dealer out of business for trying to get your best price, as mentioned the dealer is going to okay the deal if he isn't going to take a bath on it in most cases. But he is also hoping that you will buy some accessories and/or have him install them so that he can make some money.

When I worked for World Ford back in 2004 we were running a sale for 0% financing or max trade in for your old car, no money down yada yada. We actually had a yahoo walk in and demand that not only he get the 0% financing, but wanted the lowest price out the door, and MAX trade in value for his used vehicle. NOTE to any car buyers on a situation like the above you can usually get two out of the three but if the dealer did all three, as Flip said, he'd be out of business, his employees don't work for free and he's got bills to pay.

You probably would not like it if you offered a service and then your customers felt that it was too high, tried to nickel dime your hourly charge, get a discount on the materials used and etc... you've got to make a living to and I'm sure you have your overhead figured in and (in most cases I am presuming) offer a fair price for your expertise and services. What goes around can come around.

Just be reasonable.

Dennis
At Dubai
tomorrow...home and out of "inactive" Rocket Captain status.

the question is ...

JLoss said:

Well, I'm getting close to buying the R3T. Any suggestions on how good a deal I can expect to get would be appreciated. For example, would $17K out the door be considered a good deal? Does anybody have information on the true dealer cost of the bike?

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What is the MSRP on the specific bike?
Model Year ?

... How is the dealer at customer service ?


It seems that you are getting about 10% once you consider the tax (I can't remember if there's a dealer prep or shipping for bikes).


IMHO

It is better to pay a bit more for a good dealer than saving an extra $1000-2000 on the purchase price from a terrible dealer.

I have no doubt that a dealer can make up any extra "savings" you get on bad service, service costs, or response.

There is a guy around here that found a bike at the dealer, then went 100 miles away and bought the same bike at "a better price".
He then went to the local dealer to rub it in that he got the bike for less than what they would sell it for.

Now the guy is pissed because the local dealer won't give him the respect he thinks he deserves.

That 100 mile dealer lost the dealership and went out of business. I don't know what he does now.

I get a 10% discount on everything I buy at the local dealer because I bought my bike there. Granted, the dealer isn't perfect and I have issues with them, as well, but we have a workable relationship.


You WILL be dependent upon the dealer after the purchase.

I will always try to buy from the dealer that I will trust with service.

I will ask for a deal on accessilories most times they will at least take a little off as a result of this I end up spending more there I managed to drop 900 with madss got a better deal talking over the phone and managed to get a free item just for the order they will have my buisness as a result of great service. I support my shop but some times I just don't feel like driving up to get the item

$17150.00 out the door. This included the AUX lamps and installation (free with purchase of lamps) also get free delivery to my home. ( I live 15 miles from dealer)
And the dealer is giving me 15-20% off anything I buy because I bought my bike there. I didnt nickel and dime them. I did my research on the net and found the comparable prices. at the time it was $14999.00. That just seemed to be what dealers were letting them go for. I then went into the dealer and he offered the bike to me at that price. I didnt try to go lower cause I knew what the market was at. Sure in these times I could have nickeled him down a couple hundred based on other internet sales BUT because I didnt they are willing to put all accessories on for free as long as i pay for them some will have a discount some wont. But they wont charge me for installation. also clothing and such comes with discounts as well. So it worked out. i thought it best to make friends with them. Now I feel comfortable going into the shop to look around. I just purchased this in the last week of january. Good luck!!!

mutt

..........Some things no dealer carries....Like my products. Not to say that at some point they won't, just not now.

JLoss said:

Thanks for the replies. However, I don't understand the line of thinking that implies that if I try to get the best deal I can that I'm somehow responsible for the dealer going out of business. Does anyone think that I (or any buyer) can force the dealer to take my offer? I wish I had such power! A business savvy dealer will only take my offer if he feels it's in his best interest to do so at the time.

That's called the "market". And the only time the playing field between a buyer and a seller is level is if both know the true cost of the item in question. Most of the time it's the seller that has the upper hand since only the seller knows the true cost. I don't apologize to anyone for trying to level the playing field.

I have only one question for those of you who "know" the true cost of the bike -- are you really going to pay the MSRP? Hmmmm? I didn't think so! Thanks for sharing...

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It's never the business owner's fault when they go out of business, didn't you know that.