R3T derestricting

[cr0ft]

ABS has no connection to what the engine is doing. And the hardware hasn't changed at all (or minimally) from 2008 and on. Same air intake, same exhaust, same engine. So the tune is fine on anything from the first model year Touring and up. Triumph hasn't really changed them.

Now, the ideal would be to put the map in and then find a knowledgeable guy with a dyno to fine tune the thing further but it should work just as well on your 2015 as a 2008.

 

[Brian]

ABS has no connection to what the engine is doing. And the hardware hasn't changed at all (or minimally) from 2008 and on. Same air intake, same exhaust, same engine. So the tune is fine on anything from the first model year Touring and up. Triumph hasn't really changed them.

Now, the ideal would be to put the map in and then find a knowledgeable guy with a dyno to fine tune the thing further but it should work just as well on your 2015 as a 2008.

Sounds good. Glad to get the answer from you all before I had to admit screwing it up. Soon as cable gets here I'm on it.

 

[Pekka]

Ladies and gents,
I have had more than a few calls about Touring model performance. This should help out more than a few of you.

The Touring models are the same except for the exhaust and ECU calibration. BOTH are very restricted.The ECU controls the secondary throttles and actually closes them at higher rpm and higher gears. In the exhaust, the header is the same, but the box after the header is very restrictive. Slip-ons (TORS and D&D) really don't do much except for sound.

Neither do air filters under the seat. Triple K&N RU-2780 filters make a bit more from 4000-5500 rpm, but have the same peak power output as the stock air filter. The stock intake plenum and ducting actually makes more torque under 3000 rpm than triple RU-2780 filters under the bearclaw. It is not until you go to a full exhaust system that the RU-2780 filters make a difference.

A stock R3T or one with a slip-on exhaust tends to make ~86 hp on my dyno (~ 13% lower than a Dynojet), and 130-131 ft-lb of torque. Simply re-calibrating the ECU (mapping) tends to result in 115-117 hp, and 140-142 ft-lb of torque. A very nice improvement.

Attached is a "tune" for stock and slip-on exhaust R3T models, as well as a graph of output differences. Dashed lines are torque. Red is an R3T with TORS and stock air filter. Yellow is after tuning. This resulted in 43+ mpg cruising at 70 mph on 87 octane fuel. Speedo corrected for stock tire. Speed limiter raised. Ignition timing improved in lower gears. ENJOY!

You can also find this map on Tom Hamburg's TuneECU.com site under the custom Triumph tunes section.

Does this map work also on the R3T 2014 California bike?

 

[Brian]

ABS has no connection to what the engine is doing. And the hardware hasn't changed at all (or minimally) from 2008 and on. Same air intake, same exhaust, same engine. So the tune is fine on anything from the first model year Touring and up. Triumph hasn't really changed them.

Now, the ideal would be to put the map in and then find a knowledgeable guy with a dyno to fine tune the thing further but it should work just as well on your 2015 as a 2008.

Ok have the LONETEC cable in hand and am about to start the process. When opening Tuneecu on my phone it says the map is 20368 on the bottom of the screen. Thats the correct one for a 2015 R3T? I have read both and the link in the beginning is no longer there. I downloaded it from tomhamburg.net \custom t tunes \ rocket III touring\ last one in the section. Comes up as the following when you see the link properties.......

 

[cr0ft]

Yeah, that seems to be the correct file.

You might want to upload the existing map from the ECU to tuneecu and save it as a "my-stock.hex" or whatever you wanna call the file, just in case. It should be a stock map that you can get elsewhere, but can't hurt to have a backup.

 

[Brian]

Yeah, that seems to be the correct file.

You might want to upload the existing map from the ECU to tuneecu and save it as a "my-stock.hex" or whatever you wanna call the file, just in case. It should be a stock map that you can get elsewhere, but can't hurt to have a backup.

OK starting the process now.....

 

[TheWhingnut]

Ok have the LONETEC cable in hand and am about to start the process. When opening Tuneecu on my phone it says the map is 20368 on the bottom of the screen. Thats the correct one for a 2015 R3T? I have read both and the link in the beginning is no longer there. I downloaded it from tomhamburg.net \custom t tunes \ rocket III touring\ last one in the section. Comes up as the following when you see the link properties....... http://www.tuneecu.com/Tunes_in_Hex_and_dat/All_Tunes_sorted_by_model/all_Rocket/Rocket III Touring/R3T_stock_or_slip-on.zip

20368 is the same base map as my Cali bike

 

[Brian]

20368 is the same base map as my Cali bike

Who hooo!!!! Seems to have taken. Information says it did and revs much higher. Raining now....hoping to get road test Saturday.

Fuel gauge is on E. Read it should come up during a ride??? Hope so.

 

[cr0ft]

The speedometer should also be more accurate now, mine matches pretty much 100% with the GPS. Congratulations. You should find that the 4000 rev "limit" it had before is just gone, it will rev cleanly to 6000 pulling like a freight train all the while, the way a Rocket should. :-D

 

[Joesmoe]

And I'm still stuck -- Toshiba Satellite laptop -- thought I would nail it with the "Show hidden devices" -- and no hidden devices are shown.

I did note that that the FTDI driver allows one to assign a COM port, and when I did so, I see a message that "COM 3 is taken". So when I launch Tune ECU, it's locked on COM 3, but so far, I've found nothing in the operating system to show me COM 3, much less manipulate it.