It would be remiss on my part to not mention my small part in the disagreement, my post to Paul regarding his patience in responding to the exhaust ping pong match was in retrospect a little unintentionally condescending sometimes Aussie humour is misconstrued as an insult or a bit condescending, We often greet each other with remarks that would offend if taken the wrong way like our nick names ,Ugly, Rough Nut, Shagger, are all mates of mine ,mine was for years Gunna(Gunner) not from my Service but from always Gunna do something or other, no offense was intended :unsure::cautious:

M8!
NEVER have I had an issue with Aussie humor! Some goes over my head so I ask questions to learn.
To me this was NOT even close to humor. I was furtively insulted by a total stranger without provocation or cause, other than I had made a mistake interpreting my CES invoice.
I had absolutely NO issue with your post, Ken. :thumbsup:
 
Relax

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Your wife is quite stunning Warp; you're a lucky man...
 
Ladies and gents,
I have had more than a few calls about Touring model performance. This should help out more than a few of you.

The Touring models are the same except for the exhaust and ECU calibration. BOTH are very restricted.The ECU controls the secondary throttles and actually closes them at higher rpm and higher gears. In the exhaust, the header is the same, but the box after the header is very restrictive. Slip-ons (TORS and D&D) really don't do much except for sound.

Neither do air filters under the seat. Triple K&N RU-2780 filters make a bit more from 4000-5500 rpm, but have the same peak power output as the stock air filter. The stock intake plenum and ducting actually makes more torque under 3000 rpm than triple RU-2780 filters under the bearclaw. It is not until you go to a full exhaust system that the RU-2780 filters make a difference.

A stock R3T or one with a slip-on exhaust tends to make ~86 hp on my dyno (~ 13% lower than a Dynojet), and 130-131 ft-lb of torque. Simply re-calibrating the ECU (mapping) tends to result in 115-117 hp, and 140-142 ft-lb of torque. A very nice improvement.

Attached is a "tune" for stock and slip-on exhaust R3T models, as well as a graph of output differences. Dashed lines are torque. Red is an R3T with TORS and stock air filter. Yellow is after tuning. This resulted in 43+ mpg cruising at 70 mph on 87 octane fuel. Speedo corrected for stock tire. Speed limiter raised. Ignition timing improved in lower gears. ENJOY!

You can also find this map on Tom Hamburg's TuneECU.com site under the custom Triumph tunes section.
THIS is fantastic when you can get this much HP from a retune and then add a free flowing exhaust system and intake and get another big HP increase and this backed up with dyno results
 
Goodness me, a bit of fun over the weekend. As an interested bystander, I am pretty sure( not certain) the Header pipes on the CES and Viking are the same diameter, The viking one is BLACK and CES is Ceramiced SILVER. The silver looks bigger in a picture. Maybe a casual measurement with the aforementioned calipers on both exhausts is in order. The Reband is 1 3/4 " outside diameter on the header, and of course Bobby Carpenters is 2 " although there is a big slug of alloy inside of it at the start. Maybe some one who is good with lists/computers can do some measurements and make a little list for all to see?
 
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