R3T derestricting

[Fingers]

Rude Moose sent you a pm

 

[Fingers]

Is this tune in tuneecu format?

 

[RichRIII]

Rude, any response to your question on a '13 cable? I have a '14 and I am wondering the same thing.

 

[TheRudeMoose]

Rude, any response to your question on a '13 cable? I have a '14 and I am wondering the same thing.

Well, I found another users' that I'm gonna borrow. I haven't got my pipes yet. Stay tuned. I'll let you guys know how it goes.

 

[Rocket4me]

Ladies and gents,
I have had more than a few calls about Touring model performance. This should help out more than a few of you.

The Touring models are the same except for the exhaust and ECU calibration. BOTH are very restricted.The ECU controls the secondary throttles and actually closes them at higher rpm and higher gears. In the exhaust, the header is the same, but the box after the header is very restrictive. Slip-ons (TORS and D&D) really don't do much except for sound.

Neither do air filters under the seat. Triple K&N RU-2780 filters make a bit more from 4000-5500 rpm, but have the same peak power output as the stock air filter. The stock intake plenum and ducting actually makes more torque under 3000 rpm than triple RU-2780 filters under the bearclaw. It is not until you go to a full exhaust system that the RU-2780 filters make a difference.

A stock R3T or one with a slip-on exhaust tends to make ~86 hp on my dyno (~ 13% lower than a Dynojet), and 130-131 ft-lb of torque. Simply re-calibrating the ECU (mapping) tends to result in 115-117 hp, and 140-142 ft-lb of torque. A very nice improvement.

Attached is a "tune" for stock and slip-on exhaust R3T models, as well as a graph of output differences. Dashed lines are torque. Red is an R3T with TORS and stock air filter. Yellow is after tuning. This resulted in 43+ mpg cruising at 70 mph on 87 octane fuel. Speedo corrected for stock tire. Speed limiter raised. Ignition timing improved in lower gears. ENJOY!

You can also find this map on Tom Hamburg's TuneECU.com site under the custom Triumph tunes section.

Hello Power Tripp

I have heard a lot about you. I am new to Rocket ownership. After reading some of this thread (not all 29 pages), has there been any updates in the R3T search for power? I have a 2014 R3T (bought 3 plus months ago) and would like to match or exceed the stock R3R power numbers. I loved the R3R on my test ride, but having a wife that loves riding on the back, the R3T was hitting the easy button. Now to find the lost power and the "bugs in my teeth" grin of the R3R.

Any updated suggestions for achieving better, "destricted" power? I would like a full system, but the Carpenter's brown colored staining doesn't seem great and Jardine isn't making them anymore...where to turn? Is it still TORS slip-on and your tune? Or are there better alternatives?

New guy asking all the same dumb questions....again.

j

 

[johnreeder]

No need to be concerned. Get rid of the exhaust and remap the ECU and you'll be good to go. Unfortunately, your options for exhaust is limited to the Triumph Off Road (TOR) exhaust or D&D pipes unless you can spend the big bucks and purchase a set true header exhaust system from Carpenter Racing. Also, I'd recommend replacing your air filter with a K&N. The three pods are best but, probably not necessary unless you do purchase the header system and even then I'm not sold on the gains over the under seat K&N. I've owned both the R3 Classic and the R3 Touring and performance is very close. I was fortunate enough to purchase the Jardine header system that are no longer available. I hope this helps. If you have any specific questions please ask.

 

[idk]

Hello Power Tripp

I have heard a lot about you. I am new to Rocket ownership. After reading some of this thread (not all 29 pages), has there been any updates in the R3T search for power? I have a 2014 R3T (bought 3 plus months ago) and would like to match or exceed the stock R3R power numbers. I loved the R3R on my test ride, but having a wife that loves riding on the back, the R3T was hitting the easy button. Now to find the lost power and the "bugs in my teeth" grin of the R3R.

Any updated suggestions for achieving better, "destricted" power? I would like a full system, but the Carpenter's brown colored staining doesn't seem great and Jardine isn't making them anymore...where to turn? Is it still TORS slip-on and your tune? Or are there better alternatives?

New guy asking all the same dumb questions....again.

j

PowerTripp has retired. He is a top of the line gentleman, who has gone well above and beyond the call of duty for many members on this site, and other sites too. Therefore there are no further developments to his tune.

You may want to have a chat with @Paul Bryant, who also makes pipes which are a work of art.

Triple K&N filters, or similar, or RamAir, are the way to go for filters. Any of those options will make the engine breath better, resulting in more power, especially with good pipes. The other HUGE advantage of that is that you will have easy access under the tank when you need to do maintenance, or add farkles.

 

[Rocket4me]

PowerTripp has retired. He is a top of the line gentleman, who has gone well above and beyond the call of duty for many members on this site, and other sites too. Therefore there are no further developments to his tune.

You may want to have a chat with @Paul Bryant, who also makes pipes which are a work of art.

Triple K&N filters, or similar, or RamAir, are the way to go for filters. Any of those options will make the engine breath better, resulting in more power, especially with good pipes. The other HUGE advantage of that is that you will have easy access under the tank when you need to do maintenance, or add farkles.

Thanks for the heads up. I contacted Paul per your suggestion. I think I would rather pay the extra for a full system. Just have not found one yet that meets my criteria. Price , looks and performance are my decision filters.

Thanks again.

J

 

[TriumPhil]

There is another performance-oriented full header exhaust system to consider, but it's not going to save you much green. It is a semi-custom Aussie system that was designed and is manufactured by CES. Our resident, domestic expert on it is 1olbull, who you may want to contact with any questions you may have.

IMO, there is no other full exhaust system available that equals the raw power output and efficiency of Carpenter Racing's Brute. Others may debate that statement, but, to date, no one has legitimately challenged its supremacy.

 

[Rocket4me]

There is another performance-oriented full header exhaust system to consider, but it's not going to save you much green. It is a semi-custom Aussie system that was designed and is manufactured by CES. Our resident, domestic expert on it is 1olbull, who you may want to contact with any questions you may have.

IMO, there is no other full exhaust system available that equals the raw power output and efficiency of Carpenter Racing's Brute. Others may debate that statement, but, to date, no one has legitimately challenged its supremacy.

Thanks for the info. Does anyone have Dyno numbers for CES vs. Carpenter?