R3T derestricting

[rocketboy3]

Fuel consumption post Tripp tune on a pack ride to Caseville I did 100miles on 2.4 gallons = 41.67 mixed riding, little traffic, pretty good I thought - motor runs cooler, idle smoother, less changing down must be alittle more torque - couldn't ask for more other than gettig Wayne to map the actual bike - too far unfortunately

 

[cr0ft]

Not been very far on it yet, but the power response seems smoother. Haven't had the chance to open it up yet, I'll go the long way home tonight and find me some clear desert roads to play on.

I have yet to get my bike remapped and out on the road (got to test out my Lonelec cable and TuneECU tonight by backing up the stock setting; remap will be tomorrow), but the graph that Wayne displayed of the stock tune with the tune he's published shows exactly what I dislike when really letting her rip with the stock map - at 4000-something the bike just chokes all over itself and you have to short-shift your way to speed. Being able to rev it out to 6k with ever increasing power should be a huge deal for when you're in a hurry to go really fast. Which, uh, of course I never do....

 

[Macrider]

Wayne, would this tune R3T stock or slip-on.hex that you posted in your first post be good for an R3T with Jardines and triple K&N's , secondaries removed?
I am currently running 20258 and its a bit of a pig on gas , would like to switch tunes for better economy when I go on a long cruise.
Let me know,
Thanks Mac

 

[cr0ft]

Wayne, would this tune R3T stock or slip-on.hex that you posted in your first post be good for an R3T with Jardines and triple K&N's , secondaries removed?
I am currently running 20258 and its a bit of a pig on gas , would like to switch tunes for better economy when I go on a long cruise.

While you wait for a response, I'll just leave this here:

There are tunes there for bikes with Jardines and K&N's, by guys from this forum too. Though on second thought you may already be running one of those... personally I would assume a "proper" tune for your pipes would also leave you with decent fuel economy, but I'm about as far from an expert as it gets.

 

[Macrider]

While you wait for a response, I'll just leave this here:

There are tunes there for bikes with Jardines and K&N's, by guys from this forum too. Though on second thought you may already be running one of those... personally I would assume a "proper" tune for your pipes would also leave you with decent fuel economy, but I'm about as far from an expert as it gets.

Thank you Croft, I am very familiar with Tune Ecu and I download different tunes all the time.
The tune I am running now is a high performance tune for R3 touring with K&Ns and Jardines.
However fuel economy is not good ,power is amazing!
I need a tune that uses the Jardines and the 3 K&Ns but with better fuel economy and was hoping that perhaps Waynes first post tune will provide that.
I need to be careful what tune I put in as I do not want to run too lean.
Mac

 

[Tripps]

Being able to rev it out to 6k with ever increasing power should be a huge deal for when you're in a hurry to go really fast. Which, uh, of course I never do....

You should see running it out to 9000 rpm.....

 

[cr0ft]

You should see running it out to 9000 rpm.....

I don't think I'm that brave.

 

[Bob T]

So - took the old gal out to stretch her legs last night and I am happily impressed. Remember, this is a 2008 Touring - Stock - so my approach is to see what can be had before I start adding go faster goodies. I happily found myself at stop lights, at the front, with nothing in the way of a drag run. So - remembering this was a 55mph speed limit I gave it the old handful at the green light. Yup - its quicker - rear tire struggled for grip as the speed shot up - next set of lights were approaching rapidly when I realized I was still accelerating and I was still in 4th. I think I may have just saved some $$'s as, for now, this is way quick enough for me! It's like a whole different ride. Previously I had the stock map running and it always felt like something was holding the brute back. Now, that leash has been removed and yup - it fly's like a Rocket! Thanks Tripp, if you are ever in Vegas I owe you a cocktail!

 

[justbkoz]

Ladies and gents,
I have had more than a few calls about Touring model performance. This should help out more than a few of you.

The Touring models are the same except for the exhaust and ECU calibration. BOTH are very restricted.The ECU controls the secondary throttles and actually closes them at higher rpm and higher gears. In the exhaust, the header is the same, but the box after the header is very restrictive. Slip-ons (TORS and D&D) really don't do much except for sound.

Neither do air filters under the seat. Triple K&N RU-2780 filters make a bit more from 4000-5500 rpm, but have the same peak power output as the stock air filter. The stock intake plenum and ducting actually makes more torque under 3000 rpm than triple RU-2780 filters under the bearclaw. It is not until you go to a full exhaust system that the RU-2780 filters make a difference.

A stock R3T or one with a slip-on exhaust tends to make ~86 hp on my dyno (~ 13% lower than a Dynojet), and 130-131 ft-lb of torque. Simply re-calibrating the ECU (mapping) tends to result in 115-117 hp, and 140-142 ft-lb of torque. A very nice improvement.

Attached is a "tune" for stock and slip-on exhaust R3T models, as well as a graph of output differences. Dashed lines are torque. Red is an R3T with TORS and stock air filter. Yellow is after tuning. This resulted in 43+ mpg cruising at 70 mph on 87 octane fuel. Speedo corrected for stock tire. Speed limiter raised. Ignition timing improved in lower gears. ENJOY!

You can also find this map on Tom Hamburg's TuneECU.com site under the custom Triumph tunes section.

Ladies and gents,
I have had more than a few calls about Touring model performance. This should help out more than a few of you.

The Touring models are the same except for the exhaust and ECU calibration. BOTH are very restricted.The ECU controls the secondary throttles and actually closes them at higher rpm and higher gears. In the exhaust, the header is the same, but the box after the header is very restrictive. Slip-ons (TORS and D&D) really don't do much except for sound.

Neither do air filters under the seat. Triple K&N RU-2780 filters make a bit more from 4000-5500 rpm, but have the same peak power output as the stock air filter. The stock intake plenum and ducting actually makes more torque under 3000 rpm than triple RU-2780 filters under the bearclaw. It is not until you go to a full exhaust system that the RU-2780 filters make a difference.

A stock R3T or one with a slip-on exhaust tends to make ~86 hp on my dyno (~ 13% lower than a Dynojet), and 130-131 ft-lb of torque. Simply re-calibrating the ECU (mapping) tends to result in 115-117 hp, and 140-142 ft-lb of torque. A very nice improvement.

Attached is a "tune" for stock and slip-on exhaust R3T models, as well as a graph of output differences. Dashed lines are torque. Red is an R3T with TORS and stock air filter. Yellow is after tuning. This resulted in 43+ mpg cruising at 70 mph on 87 octane fuel. Speedo corrected for stock tire. Speed limiter raised. Ignition timing improved in lower gears. ENJOY!

You can also find this map on Tom Hamburg's TuneECU.com site under the custom Triumph tunes section.

Good info ,thanks, however my 09 r3t has stock exhaust with triumph off road slip ons .had an accident in December, messed up my pipes. Doing some upgrades but not having any luck, already bought the tuneboy just need performance pipes,, any ideas,

 

[cr0ft]

I think the only game in town used to be the Jardines, and they're not available anymore. Maybe hit up the classifieds with a want ad.