New Rocket III Touring tune question

From what I've learned so far about the R3 I think its a bit of a mixed bag. For the most part I think the R3 is overbuilt. That would be based on examples you quote like Walt who are getting big horsepower from the bike with minimal problems.

I do think there may be a couple of weak links like the clutch, TPS etc. I also think Triumph has a bit of a problem with quality control, especially when it comes to assembly. It seems that some get a bike that's bullet proof and some get a lemon. That's certainly not a problem unique to Triumph.

I think another issue is operator driven. My friend and I race a Dodge Viper Competition Coupe. Its another seriously overbuilt piece of equipment. We've gotten excellent performance from our complete drivetrain over 5 years of racing. Of course we've replaced engines, transmissions etc, but at very reasonable rates. We have another friend with the same car. He routinely destroys rear ends, transmissions, and other assorted parts. The main difference is the guy absoluely abuses his equipment. Using the rev limiter as a shift point, the ABS in every turn, and makes pit lane burn outs a real show.

I guess that's a long winded way of saying that adding power doesn't necessarily guarantee an increased failure rate. It all depends on how you use/misuse the power. I suspect a stock R3 in the hands of a ham fisted rider will fail prematurely. That's not to say that Triumph doesn't need to address a few issues. It does appear that they have implemented year on year changes as indicated by their recent upgrade kit.

I've made modifications to my R3T for a couple of reasons. For one, its a Triumph Rocket 3 and it should be embarassed to roll out with only 90 RWHP. Mine now makes around 135 RWHP and no longer has to blush around friends. The other reason is simply that's what I do. I've modified every bike and car I've owned. All my BMW's have been tweaked to perform better. Hell, my beater Chevy truck has long tube headers, full exhaust and intake upgrades and a modified computer.

****, that morning coffee really seems to have kicked in. Sorry for the long winded rant.....

We have success. All issues with the Tuneboy download are sorted. The root cause was effectvely "timing".
i.e. I downloaded the latest Tuneboy progam from the Tuneboy website just before the R3T version was updated. This meant I was effectively using the Rocket Classic Tuneboy version, which does not work with the Touring. This was what was causing the electronics to continue after the ignition was switched off and the battery to go flat, engine run on etc. This would not have occurred if I had used the Tuneboy version sent to me on the CD, but I always load the "latest" version from a website before I run a new application. Too smart for my own good

Using the new version, the download worked simply and perfectly, and all issues have disappeared. Many thanks to Harry for his knowledge and assistance

I now have the "nearly unrestrained" version of the ECU, along with TORs installed. I am over the knee op and was about to head out for my first ride this morning.........aaaaargh.......Bloody Sydney.....one enormous thunderstorm, with thunder, lightning and rain, shaking the house. Where's that cheese ?

One thing I can say is that the TORs do have a more fitting sound than the stock pipes for the big Rocket, but are certainly not as loud as the baffled Roadhouse slip-ons I had on the Vulcan2000 (and they weren't obnoxious). I also don't get the loud burble on decel I had on the Vulcan which used to drive me crazy.

I think I see a patch of blue sky

Regards, Pete

Wow
Got out for the first ride today, since updating, for a couple of hundred kms.

I don't own a Classic to compare the upgraded Touring to, but it's pretty slick with the TORs and the Tuneboy. You really can notice the difference, even just using the "seat of the pants" dyno. It really does bring a constant grin to your face.

Pete

Didn't take long to forget the hassle of getting everything sorted did it??

Now, think about the triple filters and Wayne's 138 HP tune.....

Hahahahaha. Problems?....what problems?????.......

I don't think I could handle any more power Harry. My grin is reaching my ears. I'm already using the Tuneboy 100% secondaries tune with the TORs, and it's more than I need. Not everyone's a rev-head like you

What's that rumble I just heard ? It's either the mother of all Sydney thunderstorms, or did you just start the Dodge Viper ????

Regards, Pete

I'm predicting that in a month or so you'll get used to the power and want more. You'll soon find out Pete that you're on a slippery slope. There's no such thing as too much horsepower...

Here's my favorite picture of the Viper. See if you can figure out why.

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just caught up with this thread, wish i had've earlier, Pete, I had the same problem as you, the tuneedit version was the cause as you have found out and I felt the same pain as you had , not like you can get the spanners out to see whats goin on, anyway, glad you're sorted, I have Raask slip ons, snorkel removed and underseat K&N. Am a very happy rocketeer

Thanks anyway Stoand. Murphy's law......
Now to really show my ignorance....Harry also mentioned K&N filter and snorkel removal, but I didn't want to show any more ignorance at that time.

I see the air filter under the seat at the rear of the tank, and I assume the K&N simply replaces the stock filter there, but since I don't have a clue what the snorkel is, I could be waaaaaaaay off track !

I'm goin' to have to get me me one of them fandangled workshop manuals !!!!

Pete.

See Pete, you just can't leave well enough alone.

You're right about the K&N, its just a drop in replacement for the stock filter. From everything I've heard the results are marginal at best. Although, D&D does recommend it with their pipes and if fact sells one with the pipes as a kit. I've just replaced mine with triple filters attached under the Bearclaw. That with the 138HP tune gives a major improvement.

To find the snorkel, remove your seat and set it aside. Now, take a look at your air filter. You don't see anything, right? Now, go back and turn your seat upside down. See that piece of plastic screwed to the bottom of the seat? The one with the piece that fits into the opening in your filter box. Remove the screws and set it on a shelf. In theory, you should now have more air entering your airbox.

I'm sorry, is there a car in that picture? I can't make it out for some reason?