New R3

[chrisw]

I'm beginning to think that we hotrod artists may have to leave the new one pretty much alone. Very very sad......

This bike is almost a big computer. It's not just the RBW bit.... the ECU (now a CPU!!!) will be taking signals from quite a variety of performance areas, engine AND chassis, and determining what resultant engine, braking, and cornering performance it will allow us in each particular area. (All this is probably "a good thing"......)

Any attempts to muck around with fuelling and/or ignition for engine performance will upset the balance of traction control (braking, cornering, as well as acceleration) determined with the IMU and the CPU programming, and I am starting to think that it will not be possible to just up the engine performance without upsetting the whole stability/handling caboose.

And if one starts playing with the ECU/CPU, what about the cruise control, hill hold, fob, quickshifter functions... and there are maybe others I haven't thought of. Wonder (shudder) if it's Canbus wired?

But what would I know???? All shall be revealed...... couple of weeks to go.......

I hope the engine wizards can come up with ways to change/personalise the Ride. This is why I went for the Rocket instead of the other electronically cloned machines

 

[Paul Bryant]

I'm beginning to think that we hotrod artists may have to leave the new one pretty much alone. Very very sad......

This bike is almost a big computer. It's not just the RBW bit.... the ECU (now a CPU!!!) will be taking signals from quite a variety of performance areas, engine AND chassis, and determining what resultant engine, braking, and cornering performance it will allow us in each particular area. (All this is probably "a good thing"......)

Any attempts to muck around with fuelling and/or ignition for engine performance will upset the balance of traction control (braking, cornering, as well as acceleration) determined with the IMU and the CPU programming, and I am starting to think that it will not be possible to just up the engine performance without upsetting the whole stability/handling caboose.

And if one starts playing with the ECU/CPU, what about the cruise control, hill hold, fob, quickshifter functions... and there are maybe others I haven't thought of. Wonder (shudder) if it's Canbus wired?

But what would I know???? All shall be revealed...... couple of weeks to go.......

Didn't Yamaha invent a Robot that could ride the bike itself ?
All Triumph needs to do is incorporate this technology into the new bikes and all our problems are solved.

No Humans required.

 

[WyldCFH]

Any attempts to muck around with fuelling and/or ignition for engine performance will upset the balance of traction control (braking, cornering, as well as acceleration) determined with the IMU and the CPU programming, and I am starting to think that it will not be possible to just up the engine performance without upsetting the whole stability/handling caboose.

I obviously don't have a new R3, but I do have 2 bikes with an IMU and can comment some.

Most traction control enabled bikes is measured and corrected by wheel speed, not engine power. Wheelie control is measured by the wheel speed or the IMU. So if you put a 100hp, or 200hp, bike against the wall and try a burn out, the wheel speed sensors will alert the ECU and either braking will be applied or ignition will be cut.

On my SD R, all these electronics are separate functions, it takes deliberate action to adjust them and adjusting one does nothing to the others.

 

[ruzzle]

Let's hope so!!!!

So can your SDR be dyno-tuned?????

 

[WyldCFH]

Let's hope so!!!!

So can your SDR be dyno-tuned?????

With a PC V, yes. And has been.

 

[Gregger]

To any of you guys purchasing the new R3, have you been able to get an insurance quote? If so, is it similar to the older model?

Here in Canada, there's at least one insurance site that won't insure any bike over 2000 cc. I wonder what might happen when you try and insure a 2500 cc model?

 

[Dr.D]

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To any of you guys purchasing the new R3, have you been able to get an insurance quote? If so, is it similar to the older model?

Here in Canada, there's at least one insurance site that won't insure any bike over 2000 cc. I wonder what might happen when you try and insure a 2500 cc model?

Have not thought about that yet? Did not have issues with the 2300 cc bike . Since it is classified as a cruiser it helps rates.

 

[Wadejesu]

I'll worry about when and if the bike ever gets here

 

[Tal]

 

[Mighty Mouse]

That Speedmaster is beautiful. If it had the new Rockets HP and Torque I would buy one in a second.