"New" 2013 R3T-to flash or not to flash?

[Big Head]

I am with you Victor, this NC heat is miserable and makes you think twice about riding in the middle of the day... I went ahead and ordered a ClearView windshield today with the 5 way directional venting.. I am looking forward to installing it, but it will be a month before it gets here

 

[bbach]

The way you outrun a V-Rod is to short-shift. The R3T stock stops revving meaningfully at 4k, but it always has brutal torque, and torque is what does the job. Just rev to just under 4k and then shift and you'll outrun a lot. You don't have a rev counter, but you can easily tell where that is - the bike starts coughing like an asthmatic bull and refuses to rev at that point... I still don't know what Triumph were thinking.

The "Power-tripp" tune (there's a sticky thread here) is a great upgrade though, you get even more torque and 30 more horses on the top end - the engine starts revving again and will go to 6k and give you peak HP at 5.5k. I'd strongly recommend it eventually, but would concur with everyone else here and say break it in first, and ride a while.

Ok now, see, I had talked about this in a different thread, how the R3 seems to stop revving after 4K. It was hinted that I should just sell the bike. So the Power-Tripp tune? I see a sticky but need to study up a bit. I feel somewhat ignorant about the tuneecu program and can't seem to find the right map. Maybe I'll send him a message and see if he will help.

 

[bbach]

I am with you Victor, this NC heat is miserable and makes you think twice about riding in the middle of the day... I went ahead and ordered a ClearView windshield today with the 5 way directional venting.. I am looking forward to installing it, but it will be a month before it gets here

I ordered the same windshield a couple weeks ago. They seem to be about 4 weeks out from order date.

 

[cr0ft]

Ok now, see, I had talked about this in a different thread, how the R3 seems to stop revving after 4K. It was hinted that I should just sell the bike. So the Power-Tripp tune?

Well, only if you have an R3 Touring. If you have a Roadster, you need a Roadster-specific tune.

I saw that other thread, and the fact that you notice the lack of power in the lower gears seems to indicate that your secondaries are still interfering. Triumph purposely limited 1-3 to make the bike a bit less dangerous to newbies I guess. If you need more power, you have numerous options - first of all, a tune that sets the secondaries to 100%, then optimized for your bike. Having an expert put the stock Roadster on a dyno can squeeze out 20 hp more without even changing air filters, I believe; if memory serves @Neville Lush did just that and had a thread about it here.

This is because no two engines are alike, and just bunging in an aftermarket custom tune into the ECU will never get you 100% there. The only great way to get the bike optimal is to find an expert with a dyno.

Combined with said expert, new air filters and an aftermarket exhaust can get you to 160-170. A Carpenter kit can get you to 210 or 240 and with that mod your bike will rev to 9000.

It's all about how much you want and how much you want to spend.

Anyway, to just open the secondaries, go to:

Scroll down until you reach the Roadster section. Verify your bike's VIN matches the range they specify. The first map there seems to be for a Roadster with stock exhaust that merely opens the secondaries and raises the speed limiter.

 

[dougl]

Well, only if you have an R3 Touring. If you have a Roadster, you need a Roadster-specific tune.

I saw that other thread, and the fact that you notice the lack of power in the lower gears seems to indicate that your secondaries are still interfering. Triumph purposely limited 1-3 to make the bike a bit less dangerous to newbies I guess. If you need more power, you have numerous options - first of all, a tune that sets the secondaries to 100%, then optimized for your bike. Having an expert put the stock Roadster on a dyno can squeeze out 20 hp more without even changing air filters, I believe; if memory serves @Neville Lush did just that and had a thread about it here.

This is because no two engines are alike, and just bunging in an aftermarket custom tune into the ECU will never get you 100% there. The only great way to get the bike optimal is to find an expert with a dyno.

Combined with said expert, new air filters and an aftermarket exhaust can get you to 160-170. A Carpenter kit can get you to 210 or 240 and with that mod your bike will rev to 9000.

It's all about how much you want and how much you want to spend.

Anyway, to just open the secondaries, go to:

Scroll down until you reach the Roadster section. Verify your bike's VIN matches the range they specify. The first map there seems to be for a Roadster with stock exhaust that merely opens the secondaries and raises the speed limiter.

The 2014 Roadsters are unrestricted. The secondaries are open 100% in 1st-3rd and also in 4th and 5th below 4800. I suppose it's possible you have an older restricted tune. The only way to tell is to have the dealer reload a new unrestricted tune or do it yourself with TuneECU.

 

[bbach]

Thanks for all your responses. I'm currently asking questions, learning, and sorting my options. I'm glad to have found some very triumph knowledgeable people.

 

[Macrider]

You can also take out your secondaries altogether.They are not needed.