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I am not looking to start a big debate and fight about the two bikes, I am on this site for a reason after all. Now granted yes, the X's are less than the R3 in many aspects, and the rest is subjective(it's all subjective really, but I am referencing power considerations). The supercharger kit that TTS has for the X(granted it's only a 15 series supercharger, not a 30 like their kits for the R3) makes only about 160 hp 160 ft lbs to the tire on pump gas, you can do that with the R3 with just an exhaust and tune. TBH you can buy an X and add the supercharger kit for less than you can buy even a used R3 around my way. If you go that X route you will have a lighter bike that makes more power than a stock R3. The VTX with the TTS kit, headwork, cams, and exhaust should net around ~200+ hp and ~200+ft lbs. The turbos available for the X with headwork and cams should be around ~250ish on pump when pushing it with lower compression pistons. So dollar for dollar up to around 200ish hp and tq you can build an X cheaper than you can an R3. I was planning on doing an e85 build on the X with higher compression, better rods, headwork, cams, turbo, raised rev limit, with nitrous to top it off, and a big bore kit if I could find one. I also had thought about a twin charged setup tbh. So yes, the X can make gobs of power, but most people who ride them aren't looking for that. I will still get an X someday, I'm just trying to decide whether the X or the R3 should be my big brawler. Being that the X would only be around 300ish on the e85, I would be limited on where I could take the bike, and short on the power I was after. Granted the X has the look and sound I prefer, so it was winning out at first. The more I thought about the money and the lack of availability of e85 everywhere, I started to look into customizing the R3. I am a big guy, and it's a big bike. I want to play with some BIG players in the racing game, so I need SERIOUS power with myself riding(300+lbs) on a big bike(hopefully modding it to look like I want lightens it up some) to compete with superbikes(think BMW S1000RR), modded sportbikes that are pushing MEGA power levels(250-400+, think turbo 'busas) and 1000-2500 hp cars from both a dig and on the top end. I don't know if the X can live up to what I want it to do, and if it could, it still would be limited on where I could ride it on e85. I know the R3 can make the power, now I need to know if it can survive it and look the way I want it to while doing it.