Keyless Ignition

[seeya]

How long did it take to install. Seems relatively simple.

took a little over an hour, let me know how you do on yours

sorry I missed you post earlier

 

[SizemattersIII]

Ok, back to my original question. How do I hook this thing up?

IDK is the final authority on this but, take the red and black wires that are together and hook those to your battery ( red to 12v+ pos., black to 12v- neg.). Then take the white and black wires that are together and hook those to the relay (white to post 85, black to post 86). If it doesnt work and you have hooked the red & white wires correctly. Try switching the grounds. They may be backwards, assuming you have hooked all other wires per IDK's instructions.

 

[SizemattersIII]

Biker1059, reference Cryians diagram on Headlight relay install with pics post #33. Shows the neg or black wire connected to post 85 on the relay. I only mentioned switching the grounds because I wasnt sure if the supply ground was seperate from the actuation ground which would make sense for the switch,but after thinking about it a ground is a ground & IDK's suggestion makes more sense.

 

[jaredmt]

I just did this on my Roadster & it works, so you can add the Roadster to the "works with" list. Some of the wire colors were different, but the important ones (blue/white, avoiding orange) are the same. I did encounter a problem, which made me glad I had my key w/ me.
Riding the bike and just like that, ignition shut off. Pulled over, got out my key & went home. I used mostly "Posi-Lock" brand Posi-taps to tap into the wires. For one wire (ran out of Posi-taps) I used a tap you usually see locally (auto store, etc), which you clamp on w/ pliers. Turns out something physically stressed the wires a bit (??), which pulled one of the wires out of the clamp and shutting the ignition off.
I've never liked those clamp-on wire taps. They beat up the wires too much.
I'll re-do that one wire when I get some more Posi-taps.
For the record, Posi-Lock (http://www.posi-lock.com/) has THE best wire tapping/joining/yadda yadda stuff I've ever used.

 

[biker1059]

Sorry I didn't reply back. It was bad connections, got it sorted out with the help of IDK. Working perfectly.

 

[SizemattersIII]

took a little over an hour, let me know how you do on yours

sorry I missed you post earlier

Finally got all the parts together & the time to do it. It took about 3 1/2 hours, but I wanted to make this a permanent install & disassembled the connector so I could do a mechanical crimp & shrink sleeve the connection ( seems as though some of the captains had trouble with some connections losing continuity, not happening here). One thing I did do different, instead of splicing back into the blue/white cable from the relay pin 30. I went straight to the battery from pin 30 with a 20 amp fuse in between. Everything else was done per IDK's instructions.
Cattail of 5 plus one.

One down. Four to go.


The one wire by itself is for a voltage gauge later.

Tucked in all nice & neat

The keyless ignition mounted (left side )


This is an EXCELLENT mod. Really cool not to have to use a key.
Huge thanks IDK for makin it possible.

 

[barbagris]

Ian - Have you seen this http://www.motogadgetshop.com/index.php/cat/c154_m-Lock.html/XTCsid/e24e3fed1e8106a19812e3942884af36 - Uses a passive fob rather than an active one. I was going to fit one as a disabling system - but now.......

 

[JoseyR3Wales]

Instructions for a Fully Keyless Ignition for under $40.00
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This mod will allow you to bypass the ignition key completely. The obvious advantage to this is that you no longer have to find some way of getting the key in the hole when you have a screen on the front. Because it bypasses the thin wiring on the ignition harness, it also appears to make starting the bike easier. In addition to this, I have found that having an on/off RF fob hanging on my belt with all the other keys I carry is much easier. It also impresses the bystanders when you turn the bike on or off without touching it.

I take no responsibility for these instructions nor for any results which may arise from using them, either correctly or incorrectly. You do so at your own risk. I have this mod on my RIII Classic and it works well. Your results may vary. It is assumed that you have certain knowledge and skills required to perform mechanical and/or electrical work.

The battery should be disconnected whilst this work is being carried out.

1. Get a remote RF switch of the type used to turn fancy LED decorative lights on & off. Should be about $20.00-$30.00. They are digitally encoded so are probably more secure than your key. An example is this Link Removed, (scroll down the page a bit) but there are plenty of others around. Most bike shows have at least one person selling them.

2. Get a 30amp relay. Around $8.00

3. The relay can be wired either side of the ignition wiring harness plug which is located under the tank, very close to the front. The ignition wiring harness will probably be coming around the LHS of the steering. I chose to wire it to the bike side of the harness to allow easy removal of the ignition wiring harness if it is ever required. Therefore the wire colours quoted will reflect that. The full colour wiring diagram can be found here. Thanks again to Cryian.

4. Splice a wire into the White/Blue wire and run it to Pin 30 on the relay. This will carry the power to the new ignition relay switch. You will need a sufficiently heavy gauge wire to carry the current. I used 14 gauge. (You can get little splicing gadgets from stores like AutoZone that clip over the two wires and splice them together just by squeezing. This method is simple and effective.)

5. Connect another wire of the same gauge to pin 87 of the relay and run it back to the wiring harness.

6. Splice that wire to every other wire EXCEPT the orange one. You should then have it spliced to five wires:- Blue/Yelloy; Green; Brown/Blue; Red/Orange; White/green. ( I made up a little cat-o-five-tails to make this easier.)

7. Wire the Remote RF switch to the pins 85 & 86 of the relay as per the instructions which should have come with the RF switch. (Instead of connecting it to a set of LED lights, connect it to the relay.) This will activate the relay.

I mounted the RF Switch and the relay under the LHS panel near the other relays. You do what works best for you. Tidy up the wiring harness with electrical tape.

The remote keyless switch can now hang on your belt with your other keys. Your regular ignition switch will also independently allow you to turn your bike on, so that it can return the favour.

I count six wires add orange with green stripe, but mine is done. Much thanks to all that contributed.

 

[JoseyR3Wales]

Did not mean to double post on the same topic but double click the attached photos for close up.

 

[rmdrake]

just recieved my remote in the mail today, orderd from the link that IDK posted and it does have a cover that slides over the on/off buttons , i will try to hook it up this weekend . wish me luck